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Mako Shark
soft-modded 9800se VS. 9700 pro
i'm wondering wich of these cards is better?
Last edited by Kappa2001; 10-13-2003 at 12:53 PM.
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Folding Team Member
If you get the right 98se and are in fact able to re-open the other 4 rendering pipes than far and away it will be a better performer. That if depends first and foremost on getting a 98se which has its memory chips configured exactly as they are on a real 98 or 98pro and not the four in a row models
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9700 pro. This is especially true given that many of the 9800 SE's dont mod well - give artifacts, etc.
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Mako Shark
is there any way i can now if it will soft-mod succesfully?
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Hammerhead Shark
At least with a 9700pro you're guaranteed a 9700pro. The soft mod of a 9800se is by no means guaranteed to work.
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Hammerhead Shark
get a 9800 np if you must...
You won't be disappointed... Make sure you take a look @ the card before you buy...Samsung 3.3n or better is recommended... 
I have this card...I once i clock it to match the XT speed...but I did not run 3Dmark though...it is too hot...
I need better cooling to do that benchmark...
Basically Pro, np, XT are using the same core...imo. 
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Great White Shark
The problem with the 9800se is that you don't why the 4 pixel pipes were disabled. It could have been a regular 9800 that had some bad pixel pipes, which got disabled and became an se, which would give you problems with image artifacts or outright failure to work. Or you might get lucky and it is a fully functional 9800 chip that had pixel pipes disabled to meet demand for se chips.
The biggest problem is that you can't tell before purchase and mod attempt which scenario is going to play out.
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Mr Zurkon is here to kill
9700 pro...even if the mod does work...there's still a good chance that the card will die a few months later...
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Hammerhead Shark
Originally posted by PointlesS
9700 pro...even if the mod does work...there's still a good chance that the card will die a few months later...
Im just curious... what are you basing this on??? Any card can die a few months later but why is there more of a chance the soft modded se will die??
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Mr Zurkon is here to kill
Originally posted by commanderkeen
Im just curious... what are you basing this on??? Any card can die a few months later but why is there more of a chance the soft modded se will die??
I'm basing this on many of the radeon 9500np softmods that worked and later on died or reported serious artifacts later on...
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Hammerhead Shark
Originally posted by PointlesS
I'm basing this on many of the radeon 9500np softmods that worked and later on died or reported serious artifacts later on...
Ok, maybe the SE is different... well we won't know until something happens.
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