You misunderstand me. I knew exactly what ATi was doing with the 9600 replacement of the 9500's. While everyone else was going "What the heck are they doing?" I knew exactly why they had. My confusion is, it seems like they could have made a .13 card with the same amount of pipelines and transistors as, say a 9800 pro, and made it their ultimate high end card. So the only reason I can see, is that they needed a mid range card so they didn't bother with the idea. And the next chip will be along those lines.