What is humerous to me is the fact that not all of T-Bird's screenshots have the fps on them...anyone else notice this? What happened then? And also you (T-Bird) keep asking for a difference between pictures. If you are not looking at AA/AF there may not be a huge difference between the pics. The difference would be the fact that on the 9800 you would be watching movement within the game, whereas with the ti 4200 you get to watch a pretty slide show.

I'm not bashing on the ti 4200. That's the card that I am currently using and it works great. I know that I will be upgrading sometime soon, though. I would much rather be able to play the new games coming out (Half Life 2, Doom 3, etc.) with all of the eye candy on and not be watching a slide show.