right now i have a duron 800 running at 1155. my temps are at about 37c idle and 43c full load. i like that. now im wondering, im prolly gonna get a tbird 1.2 or 1.4 and start ocing the hell out of it too but ive heard alot about tbirds being warmer than durons and such....my friend has the exact same case as i do and exactly the same amound of case fans except he has a slighty better than stock hsf on his 1 gig tbird and his runs at 43c idle. i dont want my temps running that high if i go from a duron to a tbird......