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    Hammerhead Shark zackbass's Avatar
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    Engineering Help Appreciated for WC setup (Now update log)

    I finally started the new case I've been talking about for so long. I got the metal on Wednesday, and since then have practiced welding, and started on the frame.

    The metal I'm using is 304 stainless square tube, .75"x.75", ~.012 thick. The idea is to use the frame as a resivor and dirstibution header. So far I have welded two 22" square side sections separately.

    Edit: I assume you've all seen that big image enough by now.
    http://members.lycos.co.uk/zackbass1/Frame.jpg

    The bottom sections are placed in the picture to show how they will be connected, but have not been welded.

    The question I pose is, what would be the best way to make use of the frame as part of the cooling system? All suggestions (even if they don't sound doable) are appreciated.
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    That's a pretty trick idea to use the frame as a resevoir. Keep us posted. I can't wait to see how it turns out.

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    I'd just use bungs for everything. Get some 3/4 round stock. Drill it and tap it. Drill a hole in the square tubing and weld the bung in place. Then get some pipe to barb adapters and you're set.

    You could probably make one side the pressure side and the other square side the return, but that may not work out right.

    Is that a miller welder there? We're considering getting their econotig
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    Yeah, that's the Econotig. It works well for just about everything I can throw at it. The only problem I have ever had is when I try welding thick aluminum, I just can't get enough heat to the weld. For anything besdies that it works absolutely great.
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    That is an incredible idea.
    The only thing I would possibly suggest is to make the panels for the case out of aluminium (Or copper if you are that way inclined) and possibly use some thermal compound when fixing them to the steel frame. That way you should get better cooling without having to weld any aluminium. (Is it possible to build the frame out of copper instead?).

    Hope there is something of use to you there.
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    Well, remember that he's making the case the resoviour, not the radiator. So making it out of aluminum isn't really needed. Now, in integrated resoviour AND radiator would be some pretty slick stuff
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    i am sure that you already thought of this, but make sure that the case will stand being moved. i have a tendency to forget the littel things like bracing and have my stuff break

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    Do you mean like falling over? For that I'll probably stick some outward feet on it if it's unstable. As for fragility, it took a lot force to even bend one practice weld (30 pound hammer with all the force I coud get with a full swing), and after that it was still watertight.

    Canyone think of a way to possibly work the frame into a resivor/(effective) radiator role? The stainless doesn't counduct heat well, I can weld a piece and pick it up a few inches from the weld with bare hands, but there has to be a way.
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    having the frame filled with the water is a good idea

    it will distribute the heat over the case panels and cool more

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    That's a great idea. I don't see how you could make it hold the radiator.

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    I command this thread to return from the grave!

    I finally got to working on my new case some more. I got the frame welded together and it's pretty straight. I cut up the metal for the HDD brackets, drilled holes in them and welded them to the frame. I got the PSU mounted which turned out to be a lot harder than I thought it would be.

    I've been keeping a journal of the work I'm doing. It has a lot of pictures embedded so dialup beware. I reccomend taking a look at the pics if you are interested, I finally got some pretty good ones.
    http://members.lycos.co.uk/zackbass1/Case%20Log.txt

    Edit: fixed the URL
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    Great work. Reinforce those HDD holders some more tho. \

    BTW...in the pic on the top of this thread, what car is that?!?! A 50's Buick maybe?
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    It looks like an old Beetle to me

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    Looks like it's coming together nicely, although I'm hesitant about the final weight of the case
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    Originally posted by Colossus
    It looks like an old Beetle to me
    Can't be, if my eyes arent deciving me the tailight is raised off the read wheel wing, and the bettles had a tailight that was of a trianglular shape but flush to the wing. Once again, thats if that thing is a tailight
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