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    Hammerhead Shark BremenCulhaven's Avatar
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    Originally posted by serotone9


    logs are usually kept indefinitely at the big sites, and they are recording everything they can, too. who knows when the information might be useful or worth big money -- probably sooner rather than later. check out google in regard to privacy, for example (from googlewatch.com):



    <snip>
    2. Google records everything they can:
    For all searches they record the cookie ID, your Internet IP address, the time and date, your search terms, and your browser configuration. Increasingly, Google is customizing results based on your IP number. This is referred to in the industry as "IP delivery based on geolocation.

    3. Google retains all data indefinitely:
    Google has no data retention policies. There is evidence that they are able to easily access all the user information they collect and save.

    <snip>

    9. Google is a privacy time bomb:
    With 150 million searches per day, most from outside the U.S., Google amounts to a privacy disaster waiting to happen. Those newly-commissioned data-mining bureaucrats in Washington can only dream about the sort of slick efficiency that Google has already achieved.


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    True, but google does loose info over time. The links go bad or are deleted as no longer good from their data base. I have seen this just based on looking at old links for handles that were used.

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    I can search my name on Googles and see posts that I made in the newsgroups back in 95!!!!

    So I know they hold data for a long time!

    Here is on from 96... GOD!!!!

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    always satisfied with Diamond MultiMedia. So I was either going to get a Dimond 3D w/ 2MB EDO(Diamond 3D 2000) or a Diamond Stelth 64 w/ 2MB of Vram (Diamond Stealth 64 3200). I will be manily using it from 3D games like quake,Duke Nukeem 3D and what ever will come out in the
    future. I will also be using it for Video playback. I want to get a GOOD resolution at Full screen. and a GOOD frame rate. How will the 3D card perform in a 2D enviroment. and a 2D card in a 3D enviroment. I want the CPU clock to be keeped down to a minimum and the card to do the work. In 2D and 3D. Well I believe that is all I need to know. :P

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    That is just the data. The log files are typically archived to tape that is good for at least 30 years - decades longer if archived to optical media as many sites do.

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    Originally posted by ua549
    That is just the data. The log files are typically archived to tape that is good for at least 30 years - decades longer if archived to optical media as many sites do.
    The question is do ISPs keep their log files that long? Heck as of late many ISPs have been going belly up so I think their logs are toast. Having a IP address on someone is pretty much worthless if the ISP has deleted the logs or just doesn't store them long enough. Or they are now defunct.

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    If I am not mistaken.. I believe an ISP needs to keep there logs for a few years according to federal...

    A few years ago a public Linux server I manage, was attacking the white house (Hacked user account!!!) My ISP was fax and send a formal letter requesting access to all/any logs from the server.. And if it was not presented... Legal action will be taken...

    So I am not sure what kind of federal laws affect servers based in the USA.

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    Originally posted by ua549
    In spite of your denials, here's a prescription for Preparation H. We know you need it. LOL
    im gunna try and walk away from this one with my reputation intact.
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