Win XP Pro blows

**Colossus** · 08-11-2003, 01:01 AM

I don’t think Windows XP is the based OS that MS has to offer... I do like Windows 2000 much more...

But I haven’t experienced any problems with either Windows 2000 or XP... They are both extremely stable, but the activation is BS.. Thank god I don’t have to activate it

I do like Linux a lot as well... Linux is by far the most stable OS if done correctly... I have had a Linux server online for over a year before I rebooted it... Now that was the longest running server I had ever had!!! Well I had some Novell that was close

I hate the feel and style of the default XP theme... That is always the first thing to go after install XP.. The XP start menu is ugly! The desktop colors are ugly! I just switch it over the Windows Classic and it works great!

I had to support a Macintosh a mainly used Macintosh office a few years ago.. Well quite a few years ago.. Pre OS X... And back then MS only had NT 3.51 and Windows 95 (not sure about 98)... Now back then Macintosh has the most stable OS.. Even though it did crash often

Now that MS had resolved a lot of their problems.. I feel that Windows XP or 2000 is by far superior to the Macintosh OS in stability... I know nobody asked... Just a statement

Sadly now I have a client that I need to support with OS 9 and OS 10... crappy!

I do feel that (sadly) that MS is better for the population then Linux... Linux doesn’t really offer a decent support route (nor does MS with their OEM products

) Also Windows is a lot more compatible with older and newer hardware then Linux will ever be...
Linux is harder to use then MS.. And it doesn’t matter what flavor..

**toastbim** · 08-11-2003, 01:12 AM

I think win2k was the most stable and best operating system ever made by MS.
i dont like win xp, its still buggy and uses up lotta resources...too many resources are wasted in bubbly icons and funky themes.

**Colossus** · 08-11-2003, 01:42 AM

Originally posted by toastbim
I think win2k was the most stable and best operating system ever made by MS.
i dont like win xp, its still buggy and uses up lotta resources...too many resources are wasted in bubbly icons and funky themes.

I admit that out of the box XP is very bloated.. But I tweak the OS down to 68MB at bootup... Nice and clean

**toastbim** · 08-11-2003, 02:20 AM

Originally posted by Colossus

I admit that out of the box XP is very bloated.. But I tweak the OS down to 68MB at bootup... Nice and clean

coming from you...i would imagine that

same here!!...u cant tell if its 2k on xp unless u click on start menu

**pudad** · 08-11-2003, 02:21 AM

yeah col, that use friendliness is like the ultimate goal I'd say. ms needs to make a posix compliant os, but they are too greedy. dam them!

**RPG Junkie** · 08-11-2003, 03:33 AM

Originally posted by Colossus

I admit that out of the box XP is very bloated.. But I tweak the OS down to 68MB at bootup... Nice and clean

53MB here

I tweaked it like nuts....its SOOO fast...

2K is the best once its tweaked, but I do like some of the extra features of XP...

**jagojago12** · 08-11-2003, 03:33 AM

Even with both Windows 2000 and Windows XP machines tweaked for performance, Windows XP in my experience will still use about 4 or 5MB more RAM than Windows 2000. That's nit-picky you could say, but if I don't need it, I'm not going to load it.

I use Windows 2000 for my main desktop, and Windows XP for my laptop for ease of use when I am tired of tweaking and just want to "cut back and relax."

**Colossus** · 08-11-2003, 03:38 AM

Originally posted by RPG Junkie

53MB here

I tweaked it like nuts....its SOOO fast...

2K is the best once its tweaked, but I do like some of the extra features of XP...

Well I do load some things

But when I drop my 3DMark drive in... I am below 40MB at bootup!!!!

Now that is amazing.. But not very functional since most is disabled in the services

**RPG Junkie** · 08-11-2003, 03:48 AM

LOL

Yeah, I had my 2K Kernel tweaked to where it was like...45MB and it was fast....but yeah, I could barely do anything....

**Jo-Jo_Fine** · 08-11-2003, 03:14 PM

I have to agree with the thread starter. I had 2K pro, and installed xp, coz i thought it would make a good upgrade, and it slowed down my comp no end. 2k runs fine though, and it has almost all of the stability, although it doesn't look quite as pretty.

It wasn't much of a loss, since my copy of xp um.... fell off the back of a truck. Seriously though, if you get fed up with the activation stuff there are plenty of programs that bypass it, and if you purchase a genuine copy anyway, its not illegal, and there's no reason to feel guilty.

Although... when it comes down to small kernals, linux wins hands down. I had a vector linux distro running [with a couple of apps, although no x] for only 30mb's!

**Colossus** · 08-11-2003, 05:38 PM

Actual it is illegal to bypass the activation... MS installed it for a reason and to go around it is against the EULA... So that would make it ummm illegal

**edk217** · 08-12-2003, 04:01 PM

I'm pretty new to XP after using 2k for a long time, but so far I feel that XP is a step backwards in efficiency.

Anywho, I'd really like to know what you guys are talking about tweaking the OS so it uses less resources and runs faster. That sounds like a pretty sweet deal.

**Colossus** · 08-12-2003, 05:42 PM

Originally posted by edk217
I'm pretty new to XP after using 2k for a long time, but so far I feel that XP is a step backwards in efficiency.

Anywho, I'd really like to know what you guys are talking about tweaking the OS so it uses less resources and runs faster. That sounds like a pretty sweet deal.

You can disable half of the enabled Services that a standard home workstation will NEVER need.. I go through all that and disable most.. I only leave a about 10-14 active

**ksuohio** · 08-12-2003, 09:33 PM

I use many different operating systems everyday (XP, NT, 2k, Linux, OSX, HP-Unix, MPE, OS/400, OpenBSD, and other forms of Unix) and I'm happy with XP. Each OS has items that I like and some I dislike. Personally, I'd rather have Win2k Server running server apps and use XP on my desktop. I also love OSX, but sometimes it's as buggy as XP. Linux currently has as many if not more patches a week than Windows and is becoming an issue for critical apps. We are actually moving to OpenBSD which personally I prefer over Linux. MPE is very much a legacy OS and will not be supported after 2006. Unix is great for what is does and has less issues like other forms.

**Brahma** · 08-12-2003, 10:16 PM

For those of you who would like to tweak Xp to be more effecient,
BLK Viper's web site has some great information and a service by service guide.

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