Cant play any games! New vid card..

**OsinO** · 08-22-2003, 10:01 PM

Hey,

Ok whenever I tried to run a game, I would get all kinds of errors. My vid card was old and wanted a new one so I bought a MSI Geforce FX5600 w/ 128mb. But STILL I get the errors. Everytime I try to run any kind of new game, it gives me some error. The ONLY game I have gotten to work is Half Life in OpenGL.. and Direct3D but it looked messed up.

I decided to format the computer and start fresh with Windows Millenium.

I installed the vid card drivers off the cd, then installed updated Detonator drivers from nvidia's website.

Got DirectX 9.0.., Updated my Soundblaster Live! Drivers.. Everything I thought I would need to get the games to work.

Here are some examples of the errors I get:

Ghost Recon
Illegal Operation

Morrowind
Rendition Error ``

Unreal II Demo

Error setting display mode: CreateDevice failed (D3DERR_INVALIDCALL). Please delete your Unreal2.ini file if this error prevents you from starting the game.

UT2003 Demo
UT2003 Build UT2003_Build_[2003-02-16_18.56]

OS: Windows 98 4.90 (Build: 73010104)
CPU: AuthenticAMD PentiumPro-class processor @ 909 MHz with 255MB RAM
Video: NVIDIA GeForce FX 5600 (4523)

Error setting display mode: CreateDevice failed (D3DERR_INVALIDCALL). Please delete your UT2003.ini file if this error prevents you from starting the game.

History: UD3DRenderDevice::UnSetRes <- CreateDevice <- UD3DRenderDevice::SetRes <- UWindowsViewport::TryRenderDevice <- UWindowsViewport::OpenWindow <- UGameEngine::Init <- InitEngine

I think it has something to do with Direct3D.. Im really not sure.. I can think of any kind of drivers or anything I need..

Any help is greatly apprecaited..

**Spl0it** · 08-22-2003, 10:16 PM

Some spec's of your system might help...

Try just the drivers off the cd or it could be that you DL'ed the wrong updates for the vid card

**OsinO** · 08-22-2003, 10:26 PM

Hey,

Here is my info:

AMD 1.2Ghz
MSI GeForce FX5600 w/128 Megs Ram
Latest Detonator Drivers
Soundblast Live! Value
Windows Millenium
DirectX9.0

Hmm I dont know what else to list..

**kpxgq** · 08-23-2003, 12:03 AM

can you get a different OS?

**OsinO** · 08-23-2003, 04:34 AM

Well before I had these same problems on Windows 98, and now after formatting I used Windows ME. Both have the same problems so I dont think its the OS causing the problem..

**gkline** · 08-23-2003, 07:06 AM

What kind of motherboard? Some might not support the newer AGP cards.

**richardginn** · 08-23-2003, 09:16 AM

I think it would help use a lot if we had full specs of the machine that is having the problem.

**OsinO** · 08-23-2003, 01:01 PM

Hey,

Ok sorry ill try to give you as much information as I can.

Here are the main things in my computer:

Motherboard: Asus A7M266
Video Card: MSI NVIDIA GeForce FX 5600 w/128mb
Sound Card: Soundblaster LIVE! Value
Ram: 256MB DDR
Operating System: Windows Me (4.90, Build 3000)
Processor: AMD Athlon(tm) Processor, MMX, 3DNow, ~900MHz (dunno why dxdiag says 900mhz, but its a 1.2ghz..)
DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0 (4.09.0000.0900)
Video Card Driver: Detonator 45.23

Now its strange because after installing the 45.23 Nvidia drivers, I thought that when I went to the driver properties under Device Manager, it would say version 45.23, but instead it still says 4.14, and also says 4.14 in dxdiag (as seen in my copy/paste below)... Dont know if this should be like that..

Here is a bunch of other info I copy/pasted from the dxdiag that some of you may need:

Monitor: AOC A785
Monitor Max Res: 1600,1200
Driver Name: nvdisp.drv
Driver Version: 4.14.0010.4523 (English)
DDI Version: 9 (or higher)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Driver Date/Size: 7/28/2003 15:19:00, 107616 bytes

DDraw Status: Enabled
D3D Status: Enabled
AGP Status: Enabled
DDraw Test Result: Not run
D3D7 Test Result: Not run
D3D8 Test Result: Not run
D3D9 Test Result: Not run

And lastly here are two more error messages I get when trying to run these games:

Silent Storm Demo
Unsupported Video Card

Raven Shield Demo
OS: Windows 98 4.90 (Build: 73010104)
CPU: AuthenticAMD PentiumPro-class processor @ 909 MHz with 255MB RAM
Video: NVIDIA GeForce FX 5600 (4523)

Assertion failed: RenDev [File:\Data Manager\Version\SPDEMO\Local\WinDrv\Src\WinViewport.cpp] [Line: 471]

History: UWindowsViewport::OpenWindow <- UGameEngine::Init <- InitEngine

Hope this will help someone to lead me to the answer..

**PikachuMan** · 08-23-2003, 01:12 PM

Processor: AMD Athlon(tm) Processor, MMX, 3DNow, ~900MHz (dunno why dxdiag says 900mhz, but its a 1.2ghz..)

I have a computer exactly like this one

, with a geforce 3 instead of the FX though.

Anyways, the default/safe/factory setting for the BIOS is 900 MHZ, even though the processor is at 1.2GHZ. Which suggests something went wrong during install.
There's a setting from 100 to 133 that will put it back to 1.2 GHZ, anyways,

Im guessing the problem is that agp something isnt configured/detected right in the bios, thats where my knowledge fades off.

**OsinO** · 08-23-2003, 01:41 PM

Hey,

Ok I think I have found the root of the problem.. Those game errors were pointing me in the direction of thinking the problem has somethign to do with Direct3D. I decided to test the "not run" tests I posted above in dxdiag. Everything went fine

DDraw Status: Enabled
D3D Status: Enabled
AGP Status: Enabled
DDraw Test Result: All tests were successful.

BUT when I tested the "Direct3D Acceleration" here is what I got:

D3D7 Test Result: Failure at step 8 (Creating 3D Device): HRESULT = 0x80004005 (Generic failure)
D3D8 Test Result: Failure at step 8 (Creating 3D Device): HRESULT = 0x8876086c (error code)
D3D9 Test Result: Failure at step 8 (Creating 3D Device): HRESULT = 0x8876086c (error code)

It appears Direct3D is the cause of the problem.. A couple of the games errors I posted above also said something about D3D:

CreateDevice failed (D3DERR_INVALIDCALL).

Hmm.. does anyone know what could be causing the problem with the Direct3D?

PikachuMan, thx for the info

**joeyst** · 08-23-2003, 02:19 PM

you might want to try experts-exchange.com people in there are pretty good.

**lonewolfroger** · 08-23-2003, 02:31 PM

The latest bio`s update on ASUS`s website for your MB, provides support for the 4200, so your MB might not support the 5600.

**OsinO** · 08-23-2003, 03:33 PM

Hey,

Hmm wow I didnt notice that GeForce 4's are only supported with the latest bios.. My card isnt a GeForce 4, but it could still be part of the problem.. Unfortunately I dont know how to install the new bios..

When I download the update all it is is a single file:

AM261007.awd

I dont know what to do with the file.. I tried reading there Bios Flashing instructions but there are like 4 different sets of instructions not sure which one to follow.. also, the files they show in the instructions are .rom files not .awd like the one I downloaded.

But still I dont think this will solve my problem. The reason is because I had this same problem with my old video card before I even formatted. Now I have formatted, reinstalled everything fresh, updated everything and all on a completely different OS.. and the same problem persists. So I dont see how it can be any type of software.. but hardware rather..

**OsinO** · 08-23-2003, 03:46 PM

Thx joeyst, but im not prepared to pay for the advice to fix this problem yet.. I hope that it can be solved here..

**clh61** · 08-23-2003, 03:50 PM

Originally posted by joeyst
you might want to try experts-exchange.com people in there are pretty good.

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