If he broke 4GHz on a northwood, could he do the same on a prescott? Those master tweakers use exotic cooling, especially prometeias and phase change. I would be very supprised if no one got at least 4.2GHz out of a 3.2GHz prescott with negetive temps. additionally, is a prescott like 20% faster than a northwood MHz per MHz? If so, wouldnt a 4GHz prescott be like a 4.8GHz northwood? a 4.4GHz prescott be a 5.28GHz northwood equivalent Thats like another GHz from what those tweak masters have now, that should be worth over 2k more marks, plus if any one hits 600MHz core and 450MHz ram, this just might get 30k or at the very least come close. If 30k isnt broken this year, it may be a close one till Intel fixes the heat problems of the prescotts then you have 30k easy and when the r420 comes out(no r400) we could be seeing scores of 35k seeing how the rumors show how much of a revolution the "Loci" will be again!