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    who manufacture cards for ATI?

    Hi,

    Someone told me that Sapphire is manufacturing the Graphics Cards for ATI
    is this true?

    If true then what happened to "made by ATI"??? is it a lie??


    anther thing...

    which of these three is the best?

    1.Sapphire
    2.HIS
    3.Herculis

    I am buying 9800pro soon and need to decide

    thanx for ur help
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    Re: who manufacture cards for ATI?

    Originally posted by sna
    Hi,

    Someone told me that Sapphire is manufacturing the Graphics Cards for ATI
    is this true?

    If true then what happened to "made by ATI"??? is it a lie??


    anther thing...

    which of these three is the best?

    1.Sapphire
    2.HIS
    3.Herculis

    I am buying 9800pro soon and need to decide

    thanx for ur help


    i've been told the same ****ing thin', idon't really know if that is true but when i looked at the different card they all looked the same so i'd picked the powercolor 9700np eventually.
    regarding your other Question hercules are thought to the best, than sapphire ,the ather one i dont know.

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    I like the Hercules cards... They are usually a few dollars more but they are far sexier

    ATI does manufacture their own cards.. AFAIK...

    Sapphire is just another factory that creates the reference board for resale, so is Gigabyte, Power Color and Visiontek to name a few

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    My "made by ATI" card OC's great. 465/380 on air cooling. 470/380 on water. We will see what she does with watercooling and peltiers soon

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    ATI does not own any board fabrication houses. They create a board spec and send it to contract manufacturers to be assembled. Sapphire is one of the largest contract manufacturers they use, and builds a significant percentage of the "Built by ATI" cards.
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    Originally posted by s1203372
    ATI does not own any board fabrication houses. They create a board spec and send it to contract manufacturers to be assembled. Sapphire is one of the largest contract manufacturers they use, and builds a significant percentage of the "Built by ATI" cards.
    Then why would there be a difference between BB ATI and BB Sapphire??? If they were both built in the same building????

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    Originally posted by Colossus
    Then why would there be a difference between BB ATI and BB Sapphire??? If they were both built in the same building????
    Saphire does the building for ATi based on the specifications stipulated by ATi. This includes capacitors, filters, and all other aspects of the final product that will be sold under the BB ATi name. Cards sold under the Saphire name can use the components that they desire, but generally don't alter much from the specs outlined by ATi for the BB ATi cards. This is why they tend to be very good quality and o/c cards.

    Just to add to that list, Tyan also builds an ATi card. Like the Herc cards their G9800 Pro-M implements hardware monitoring for temps and voltages, and has an o/c utility specifically for the card. This utility can also alter fan speeds based on system temps.
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    Now ATI dose not manufacture there own cards anymore. They just supply the chips. I have an Built ATI Retail card myself, and it O/Cs great, but early this year, ATI stopped making there own cards
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    Originally posted by Un4given
    Saphire does the building for ATi based on the specifications stipulated by ATi. This includes capacitors, filters, and all other aspects of the final product that will be sold under the BB ATi name. Cards sold under the Saphire name can use the components that they desire, but generally don't alter much from the specs outlined by ATi for the BB ATi cards. This is why they tend to be very good quality and o/c cards.

    Just to add to that list, Tyan also builds an ATi card. Like the Herc cards their G9800 Pro-M implements hardware monitoring for temps and voltages, and has an o/c utility specifically for the card. This utility can also alter fan speeds based on system temps.
    That is interesting... I noticed the heatsink on a Retail BB ATI is different then the Sapphire... Well its more of the mounting hardware then the heatsink itself.. Sapphire uses little brass fittings while ATI uses plastic pegs...

    Hardware monitoring would be nice with BB ATI cards.. But I got around that.. I attached a temp probe to the heatsink

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    ATI still handles the AIW cards the last time I checked. Also MSI will soon be shipping ATI cards. They are the worlds largest supplier of graphic boards.
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    Originally posted by Vengance_01
    Now ATI dose not manufacture there own cards anymore. They just supply the chips. I have an Built ATI Retail card myself, and it O/Cs great, but early this year, ATI stopped making there own cards
    Well...that's not totally accurate either. AFAIK TSMC and UMC make ATI's chips. They don't own any fabs themselves. Basically, all ATI does is design the chip, give the reference specifications and develop the drivers. All of the manufacturing is done by 3rd parties.

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    Originally posted by talldude
    Well...that's not totally accurate either. AFAIK TSMC and UMC make ATI's chips. They don't own any fabs themselves. Basically, all ATI does is design the chip, give the reference specifications and develop the drivers. All of the manufacturing is done by 3rd parties.
    ture and thats what I ment
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