Grand Theft Auto makers sued over teenage killing

[Nabby]

Originally posted by Kung_Fu_Fighter
Havn't seen it but id take anything you saw in there with a grain of salt. Im not denying the facts that are in there, just how they were presented. I heard MM did a lot of creative editing for that show.

I saw part of it on TV talking about how the US has been responsible for the deaths of millions of innocents in the wars we've had and we're the worst when it comes to that sort of thing. No one else in the HISTORY of the world is as bad as the US. Hardly. Hitler, Stalin, Sadam, Genhgis Khan, funny how they didn't get a mention.

Actually they did, people kept using the "violent" history of the US as an excuse for the way people kill each other. It happened multiple times in most of his interviews and right after that comment he would start to name off countries like Germany, Japan, and a few others. I mean the TV just showed you the "bad american" parts. They make good comparisons imho. You would have to see, and the funny thing is the guy bringing all this contreversy in about guns is a member of the NRA so it's not really biased. As a matter of fact him and two of the columbine survivors got Kmart to stop selling amunition.

The problem here is that people listen to the TV too much. I'm not trying to make fun or be mean or anything, but we keep getting spoon fed this complete crap from TV that we loose touch with reality. atleast that's how I feel.

Now the problem with the US is that they are nosy. They can't seem to keep out of peoples problems. Some war is happening somewhere we are involved. I mean common let people work things out for themselves. Basically the US motto is, as I see it, "It's our way or the highway." And look at our society it's almost completely screwed, kids shooting each other at schools, teenagers mimicing games, and the president bombing other countries, I mean damn.

Kung_Fu_Fighter: I agree. My little brother (8 years old) plays some of these violent games and yet he know the difference between the real and not real. He understands because we have told him. Granted my parents don't let him play GTA at all because I told them the contents and they refused to let him play, even though the game sits here in the house he has never played it and won't play it until he's old enough. Why can't other parents be like this??

Fact:
The day the columbine shooting happened the US did the largest bombing run ever in the history of the world on Kosovo. I can gurantee you most people didn't know it.

[Kung_Fu_Fighter]

Originally posted by Nabby
The problem here is that people listen to the TV too much. I'm not trying to make fun or be mean or anything, but we keep getting spoon fed this complete crap from TV that we loose touch with reality. atleast that's how I feel.

Your correct. They do feed you that on a constant basis. The best thing you can do is to question what people try to tell you and find out the facts for yourself. Watch the BBC news sometime and see what stories they feel are important and how they present them.

Originally posted by Nabby
Now the problem with the US is that they are nosy. They can't seem to keep out of peoples problems. Some war is happening somewhere we are involved. I mean common let people work things out for themselves. Basically the US motto is, as I see it, "It's our way or the highway." And look at our society it's almost completely screwed, kids shooting each other at schools, teenagers mimicing games, and the president bombing other countries, I mean damn.

Now the war on terror is a whole nuther can of worms. You don't just stand by and let another country do that to you or we would really be walked all over.

I would not say our society is completely screwed. Deffinatelly have some problems but not doom and gloom time yet.

[Isezumi]

as mentioned previously...

Countersuit- Gross Negligence on behalf of the parents and the better part of the commmunity where the two gentlemen where raised.

I mean, I can see merit in sueing drug manufacturers for phenominally consistent occurences of bad **** that happen from taking their products. Or something that generally alters chemical processes of the brain structure, or generally alters an authority structure (Police Officers that tell people to do bad things). But 'OMG the game made me do it' is a giant Red Flag that says "OMG I have very weak sense of reality." In which case this is one of those 'Tough ****' scenarios. You can't even really BEGIN to prove that it's really the games fault. I mean the amount of people doing phenominally stupid **** because of the game would have to be in the MILLIONs to prove that "the game did it".

[soupnazi]

Darwin's evolution theory should have weeded out these 2 idiots. I hope they pay SEVERELY for their random act of stupidity.

[lonewolfroger]

This is the same thing that happen in the 70`s to have all the TV shows back then with violance in them to be taken off the air. A teenager, killed his parents with a ax and blamed it on the show Kojak, saying that is where he got the ideal to do it.

[Panda]

This is just an example of poor aim. In my day when we took pot shots at moving vehicles we didn't aim for the passengers. Kids today...

[Mrfreddio55]

Ugh, thats just sick, and the problem is is that I think now kids think they can do it, and blame it on the game, and get away without facing the concequences. It just blows my mind that any person would even WANT to reenact what goes on in the game..? And also, how is it that they had such easy access to guns and ammunition, hmm?

[Ashpool]

Wow. I thought the Gene Pool hit rock bottom YEARS ago...

[Sandro]

We were scraping the bottom of barrel years ago. Now there's just no more barrel to scrape.

[Terry]

With the help of reality TV, the gene pool is underground.

[Kung_Fu_Fighter]

Originally posted by Panda
This is just an example of poor aim. In my day when we took pot shots at moving vehicles we didn't aim for the passengers. Kids today...

LoL. I was thinking that too. Kids have been doing stupid stuff for a loooooong time before vidio games came on the sceene.

[Kill-Switch]

Every year we get another court case where someone gets killed and instead of the murderer being prosecuted we have a huge multi-million lawsuit against videogames

Simple deduction ... Today kid kills a man, idiots blame videogames for kids actions, before videogames existed idiots blamed TV. If this were true where in the he!l did all the psychos come from before TV existed? These days it's become all to easy for people to point the finger, it's classic scapegoating when in actual fact the people pointing the finger should be looking closer to home to find out the cause of the problem. Never once in the above cases do we find the parents being investigated or sued for millions, it's always some scapegoat.

As always the case will be dropped as it has no grounds, yet the government will enforce even tighter cencorship over everything ... it ruins everything for us sane people.

[soupnazi]

Originally posted by Kill-Switch
yet the government will enforce even tighter cencorship over everything ... it ruins everything for us sane people.

Just take a look at Germany for example. Some games are not allowed to be sold there or they get a censored version.

[Isezumi]

Originally posted by Sandro
We were scraping the bottom of barrel years ago. Now there's just no more barrel to scrape.

Dude are you kidding, we stopped scraping barrel like 20 years ago...this is all dirt and rocks and stuff.

[talldude]

Originally posted by X-Reaper
[B]
The two boys told police they shot at vehicles on a highway near their home with a .22 rifle...eight fragments of shrapnel in her pelvis.

You gotta love that reporting. A .22 rifle doesn't leave shrapnel...Anyways, this is a complete POS lawsuit.