Question - EQII

[kilt]

I am just wondering... EQ is supposed to be one of the most popular online games, and yet I never see it mentioned on any boards, and I also never see it used in any test systems (for graphics cards and other hardward stuffs).

Everyone here seems to be into the shootem up games (hey, I played doom and duke nukem, but they got pretty dry pretty quick).

Seeming that EQ (everquest) is so popular, is anyone looking forward to EQ II. Or, is it not really that popular of a game and I have just been mislead by the company that provides it.

kilt.

[Sangiovese]

Everquest has been extremely popular, you weren't mislead.

Not sure why you never see it in any tests, but I'm sure it has something to do with the "online only" nature of the game.

The only reason I'm not looking forward to EQII is that I spent waaaaaaay too much time playin the original, to the point of neglecting all my other hobbies (fortunately it never got the the point where I neglected family or job.. but it does for some people). Those games require a SIGNIFICANT time investment to really progress... it's not something you can do for an hour or two a couple nights a week. At least, not if you want to develop your character and experience the "high end" content.

[kilt]

Actually I did manage to find one reference to EQII in the games forums. It got mixed reviews, mostly because many people here are not keen on neverending RPGS.
I do recall playing 5-6 hours a night for the first month when I got the game. I didn't neglect job or family (since I had neither), but I did get away from my hobbies a tad.
Anyway, I quit almost 4 years ago when I got a job. Job is getting to me now, so, though I would spend more time at home and playing EQ. However, not keen on going back to the old EQ since I am behind the times. Not even sure my old characters still exist, I would hate to start over. Thus waiting for EQII and a fresh start.

kilt.

[Hadsus]

EQ is an olddddd game....that's why it's not talked about anymore. People have either played it to death or moved on to something more of their liking. I don't think they ever kill off toons so if you made one in the past it's probably still there.

You don't see it used on test systems because online games can confound the results. Server load and response time can muck up graphic FPS scores easily.

I'm pretty sure I'll pick up EQ 2 when it comes out though I would guess I won't play it for too long. It's an experience that alot of people seem to want to go through just once because of the time investment required and because developers seem to regurgitate the same concept over and over and over. WoW's is another game I'll probably try....both of them more for the fond memories they bring back from EQ rather than an interest in wasting away weeks of play time.

[asmox]

eq is popular, and also the worst mmorpg in the universe. it's like pop rock.

on the other hand, every mmorpg exists in a world of mediocrity when you come from uo (the greatest mmorpg in the universe).

[Slirp]

Originally posted by asmox
eq is popular, and also the worst mmorpg in the universe. it's like pop rock.

on the other hand, every mmorpg exists in a world of mediocrity when you come from uo (the greatest mmorpg in the universe).

You git!

How dare you speak ill of EverQuest. (jk dude, every entitiled to their opinion.

As for the Original post there are multiple threads on EQII alone in these forums. There are pleanty of people out there waiting to get this game. EQ set the standard for MMORPG's, people have tried to make a better one since but have alway come up lacking.

[Mr Cherry]

Originally posted by asmox
eq is popular, and also the worst mmorpg in the universe. it's like pop rock.

I like you.

I hate EQ. I've been surrounded by evercrack addicts too much to like the game. Though I have a good friend who is an addict but he's looking forward to WoW more than EQ2. Something about his guild switching over.

[asmox]

EQ set the standard for MMORPG's

now THAT it definately did not do.

[Mr Cherry]

I forgot who said this but I have to quote it:

"Everquest is a treadmill that makes you fat."

rofl, haha.

[Slirp]

Originally posted by asmox
now THAT it definately did not do.

And which game would you say did set the standard? Ultima?

I don't know, you could go that way with it. Anything before Ultima was more or less a D&D based game or mud. Come on now. I still see EQ as being a better game then Ultima, just wasn't my thing.

[kilt]

I forgot who said this but I have to quote it:

"Everquest is a treadmill that makes you fat."

Thats funny as hell. I noticed from watching some of the fan fare vids that most of the hardcore EQers are pudgy, if not obese, especially the women. Now does EQ make you fat, or are fat people just attracted to EQ.

Just thought I would mention, when I played EQ I was running 60 km a week. Now I don't play any games and I rarely run 30 km a week. Maybe I should start playing again.

kilt.

[asmox]

And which game would you say did set the standard? Ultima?

I don't know, you could go that way with it. Anything before Ultima was more or less a D&D based game or mud. Come on now. I still see EQ as being a better game then Ultima, just wasn't my thing.

UO was actually a game, as opposed to the oversized chatrooms with graphics and level grinds that are 99% of all mmorpgs that came after it (eq at the top of that list).

uo > *, imho.. and unfortunately nothing will ever compare due to developers being too afraid of implementing freeform pvp in their mmorpgs due to the mass amounts of carebears and whiners that tend to play mmorpgs these days. every time i see discussions about mmorpgs in general, i find myself wishing that developers had taken up after uo instead of eq.. that way the present mmorpg world might have some actual GAMES instead of giant pointless graphical treadmills that go absolutely nowhere (which has been every mmorpg after UO, with the exception of the first Asheron's Call and MAYBE one or two others).

all imho, of course.

[Hadsus]

Right now, the king of MMORPGs as far as subscriptions are concerned is FFXI, with EQ second. EQ has been far more popular than UO since 1999. You can trash EQ as much as you want but people vote with their feet and their feet tell them to favor EQ over OU and just about any other MMORPG.

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[asmox]

popular != better
popular = more accessible to the masses (generally a bad thing when it comes to quality)

that's why you see things like EQ and FFXI at the top, subscription-wise.. they aren't necessarily better games, just easier to get into and be really good at.

games like EQ, all you need is time and you can be godlike.. games like UO, you aren't going anywhere without actual skill.

[Nightlord]

Asmox- You should look up my old post on open PvP... you'd learn something. It just does NOT appeal to the masses. There isn't a single online role-playing game out there that can boast higher numbers in their PvP only servers than in their non-PvP ones. And as for UO, yea it was fun... but look at open PvP like this: The PKers got off on running around killing all the "whiners" and "carebears" who were just looking to run around having fun on their own. They boasted how l33t and awesome they were. So UO adds some non-PvP content into the game. NOW, going on your outlook on what made UO so successful, this should have been absolute Heaven for ALL those PKers out there: the whiners were gone which left behind nothing but a massive arena of l33t-skilled PvPers to do battle in peace.

Hmmm... wait a minute... that's not what happened at all. Faced with only other PKers, suddenly it wasn't as fun anymore. The PK side of the world was damn near empty and now you've got all those l33d d00ds doing the complaining. But SURELY no-one wanted to hang out in the non-PK side?? PKing is what made UO so great!

Yea, right. What happened was, given the choice between open-PvP and the CHOICE of PvP, the masses took the choice. And it wasn't this change to PvP that started hurting UO, it was the lack of added content all those players wanted. The chessy "3D" upgrade did little to apease the masses, and Ebay was suddenly flooded with accounts being sold. I'd be interested to know how many UO players now were there from the start, or bought their account and refuse to give it up because of how much they paid for it.

As for EQ2, I'm greatly looking forward to it. Maybe they'll implement some form of PvP down the line, maybe they won't. But if they put anywhere near the TIME into that they have with EQ, it should rock.



P.S. Just read your post above: "In games like EQ all you need is time to be Godlike" ??? And I suppose with the proper "skill" you were a God in UO as soon as you logged in? That's just plain funny. In UO you had to grind your skills just as much as any other role-playing game. You had to fight enough mages (or use game-mechanic work arounds like fighting a friend" to raise your magic resistance, go beat up enough zombies to raise your weapon skill... ect. There's no such thing as a role-playing game without it's "time sinks". And something else... as a game developer, I'm NOT going to sink my time, money, and resources into a game to make those few l33t d00ds happy and ending up with a 4K subscriber base game (if I'm lucky). No, I'm going to create a game that let's me sit at over 350,000 for next 5 years putting some real money in my pocket. But hey, maybe you know best... so go forth and create an open-pvp role-playing game and show those idiots at Sony how it's done.