Priated Games? Whats your value system?

[tinker dave]

Forget I ever brought this subject up. I swear on a stack of bibles I never utter another word.

[gurutoo]

I think people should stop "judging" others who feel differently about this topic than they do. I grow weary of all the hypocrisy.

I also feel that this thread is far more "philosophical" than computer software oriented as well as Flame Fest Fodder and therefore should be locked.

gurutoo

EDIT: The last thing I want with my morning coffee is a yet another lecture on this beat to death topic.

[tinker dave]

Originally posted by gurutoo
I think people should stop "judging" others who feel differently about this topic than they do. I grow weary of all the hypocrisy.

I also feel that this thread is far more "philosophical" than true computer software oriented and therefore should be locked.

gurtoo

So then what your saying it stealing and taking what doesn't belong to you is "philosophical?" Interesting concept on how to get something for nothing off the back of others.And that one shouldn't judge another because they steal.Let me ask you an honest question . Do you steal? I would seem logical to think that the only ones who would have trouble and be upset with this thread would be the people who take what doesn't belong to them.Also explaine to us the difference between truth and one being philosophical?

[gurutoo]

Originally posted by tinker dave
So then what your saying it stealing and taking what doesn't belong to you is "philosophical?" Interesting concept on how to get something for nothing off the back of others.And that one shouldn't jude another because they steal.Let ask you an honest question . Do you steal? I would seem logical to think that the only one who whould have trouble and be upset with this thread would be the people who take what doesn't belong to them.Also explaine to us the difference between truth and one being philosophical?

So then what your saying it stealing and taking what doesn't belong to you is "philosophical?" Interesting concept on how to get something for nothing off the back of others.

And so it begins, flame wars usually begin when one member puts words in the mouth of another. If you'll read my post again, I said nothing even similar to the above.

Do you steal?

Inflammatory question trolling for trouble

Also explaine to us the difference between truth and one being philosophical?

This Site has no" Off Topic" forum.

[Gunslash]

Oh oh! The all mighty righteous nerd police is here!
Let people make their own choices.

[gurutoo]

tinker dave

Below is a copy of your sig:

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Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor Northwood 3.2GHz, 800MHz FSB, Socket 478 O/C 3.5GHZ Coolermaster JET 4 ICB-V83 Heatsink.
Abit AI7 Mobo.
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Dual Western Digital Raptor WD740GD 74GB Serial ATA 10,000RPM Hard Drive w/8MB Buffer Raid 0.
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Boston acoustics BA-4800 speakers.
BenQ 4816P 48x16x48 EIDE/ATAPI CD-RW Drive.
AspireUSA X-Super Alien Aluminum Case.
Aspire Aluminum ATX-AS500W PSU.

I notice you are running a 300Mhz overclock on you rig.
Isn't that STEALING revenue from Intel?
If you wanted more performance, Intel sells faster processors than the one you paid for. Since you only paid for 3.2 Ghz, that is all the performance you are entitled to. (Philosophically speaking of course)
OR does that make YOU a thief?

[tinker dave]

I guess what I find hard to understand is the bitterness you two have on this subject.Its a senitive subject and I appoligizes If I came off sounding self rightous. Your input is welcome I just asked for you to explain you comment. Its not a flame war or that someone is self righous about paying for somthing. Sure I overclock but I see no where where Intel says its illegal.
Your thoughts are welcome and we would be interested in what you have to say.But please don't get so upset with people who post. I never said I was free from every doing anything wrong.
Why be so defensive? Remember this is just a forum. I'm sorry if I in any way offened .

[kent1146]

Originally posted by tinker dave

Well I'll get off my soap box now, as you might have guessed Mrs Tinker hasn't given Mr Tinker any loving latley so Mr Tinker is a little out of sorts.

Was the tone of your post influenced by Mrs. Tinker not fulfilling her wifely obligations?

If so, have you taken care of it yet?

If so, rock on, Mr. Tinker!

[gurutoo]

Originally posted by tinker dave
I guess what I find hard to understand is the bitterness you two have on this subject.Its a senitive subject and I appoligizes If I came off sounding self rightous. Your input is welcome I just asked for you to explain you comment. Its not a flame war or that someone is self righous about paying for somthing. Sure I overclock but I see no where where Intel says its illegal.
Your thoughts are welcome and we would be interested in what you have to say.But please don't get so upset with people who post. I never said I was free from every doing anything wrong.
Why be so defensive? Remember this is just a forum. I'm sorry if I in any way offened .

Like I said this "subject" has been beat to death (by pirates no less)in this forum already.

Posting statements like:
2. PAY PEOPLE FOR THEIR WORK. We all want to get paid when we work so if someone makes a game Pay him for it and get on with your life.

and

4.UNDERSTAND THAT STEALING IS WRONG PERIOD!. Its just as wrong to steal money from a big Company as it is to steal money from your grandma's purse.

is no way to win friends or influence people.

Gunslash post was very concise - "let people make their own choices."

Also make sure you're not running overclocked when you start a "moral" debate...

[tinker dave]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by gurutoo
Like I said this "subject" has been beat to death (by pirates no less)in this forum already.

Posting statements like:
2. PAY PEOPLE FOR THEIR WORK. We all want to get paid when we work so if someone makes a game Pay him for it and get on with your life.

and

4.UNDERSTAND THAT STEALING IS WRONG PERIOD!. Its just as wrong to steal money from a big Company as it is to steal money from your grandma's purse.

is no way to win friends or influence people.

Gunslash post was very concise - "let people make their own choices."

Also make sure you're not running overclocked when you start a "moral" debate... [/QUOTE

I'm sorry I didn't know you two spoke for everyone on this forum.
And that no one else was intitled to a comment or maybe had somthing interesting to say about this subject.I've only heard you criticize and complain why this is a waste of time.I had asked for input and the only thing that you contributed was to make the comment that it had been done to death.
Maybe other people have an opinion on this subject so if you don't mind will get back to the subject. I apologized if the post sounded self rightous now let other people say what on their mind about pirated software.Thanks again for your post
Tinker

[Matt_E]

Geez...give it a rest. If you feel pirating games/software is wrong, don't do it and support the industry with your money. Sure way to ensure more good software in the future!

If you like pirating, Black Friday should have good sales on blank media coming up.

[tinker dave]

Originally posted by Matt_E
Geez...give it a rest. If you feel pirating games/software is wrong, don't do it and support the industry with your money. Sure way to ensure more good software in the future!

If you like pirating, Black Friday should have good sales on blank media coming up.

See! there is good input out there.

[mansionman]

Originally posted by Gunslash
Oh oh! The all mighty righteous nerd police is here!
Let people make their own choices.

well said.

[Matt_E]

I should add that in my beginning computer days (1991-94) I used to copy games. After that, I bought all my games. Now, I did make sure I knew exactly what I wanted, and bought only the best (With a few exceptions).

[Freddy_Kruger]

Borrowing games is illegal. Lending games is illegal. These are the thin edge of the wedge. Me and Tinker Dave wish the world was a pretty place with no bad people.