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 A little Linux/Windows Article
http://www.osopinion.com/perl/story/7868.html
My opinion agrees with this guy on several levels, though not all.
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Q: How many UGA students does it take to change a lightbulb?
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I heard that MS programmers were incorporating parts of the Linux code into Windows XP. So much for the GNU license...
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I think that Linux should mind its own business and stop worrying about what Microsoft must do. MS won't change its business model that has brought it where it is today. And their new products aren't too shabby either.
As for MS stealing GPL code - not likely, and certainly not easy to sustain with hard facts at this moment. The GPL has never been really tested in court, and attacking MS with it will prove very difficult. They have taken BSD code because it was good and because it was available. I don't think they would go to the trouble of stealing GPL code.
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It's nice to be good, but it's good to be nice.
It's nice to be good, but it's good to be nice.
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Mako Shark
See, theres one thing i dont get. THis guy makes a big deal about windows needing more ram and processor power every time around, while KDE2 cant match Explorer's speed on a P3-868 with 512MB of RAM. Seems to me KDE needs a lot more power than what KDE1 needed. This is one reason i dont put too much stock in these Windows vs. Linux articles. The person writing it very often is very biased against one or the other.
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I am not going to argue speed because I think it greatly depends on what you do. I am also don't put any faith to clames that there is Linux code in Windows (though Windows developers said they have looked over it...supposively..can't always believe what you read on slashdot). However, MS has stated they used BSD code ideas for TCP/IP and Kerberos stuff. Though who really cares because virtually everybody does since the BSD people did it better then anyone else ever did.
What I agree with most is the part about contributors. The difference between Linux and Windows is if you want something to change in Linux you have the power to do it, there is absolutely no debating the fact that you can't do that with Windows. Just try and see what happens if you were to contact MS and tell them you want your code in there OS....
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Q: How many UGA students does it take to change a lightbulb?
A: Two, one to call a friend at GT and another to follow the directions.
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Your right, the only way to get MS's code is to steal it from there site, not recommended. I have come to like linux, but I still know to little to be able to use it full itme. I hope mandrake 8 will help with that some.
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Mako Shark
Originally posted by jtshaw:
I am not going to argue speed because I think it greatly depends on what you do. I am also don't put any faith to clames that there is Linux code in Windows (though Windows developers said they have looked over it...supposively..can't always believe what you read on slashdot). However, MS has stated they used BSD code ideas for TCP/IP and Kerberos stuff. Though who really cares because virtually everybody does since the BSD people did it better then anyone else ever did.
What I agree with most is the part about contributors. The difference between Linux and Windows is if you want something to change in Linux you have the power to do it, there is absolutely no debating the fact that you can't do that with Windows. Just try and see what happens if you were to contact MS and tell them you want your code in there OS....
Maybe thats the reason that MS is so antsy about letting out source code---for then it would reveal how much they stole from open source stuff and violated agreements. ;-)
As for the KDE vs. Explorer thing, i have yet to find a single thing in KDE that is faster than Explorer, cept maybe CDROM seek time.
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Ya, the first time I istalled KDE2.0 (KDE1.2 was lighting fast on my machine) it ran decent, not really a noticable difference. But something has happend to recent releases of it and I ended up going back to Gnome because it pissed me off.
Originally posted by blppt:
Maybe thats the reason that MS is so antsy about letting out source code---for then it would reveal how much they stole from open source stuff and violated agreements. ;-)
As for the KDE vs. Explorer thing, i have yet to find a single thing in KDE that is faster than Explorer, cept maybe CDROM seek time.
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Q: How many UGA students does it take to change a lightbulb?
A: Two, one to call a friend at GT and another to follow the directions.
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I am using KDE 2.1 now, bth on my home computer and at work. At home, with 96 MB RAM ( I presume CPU power doesn't really count unless you're still using a Pentium) it is very snappy (mp3 playback, Konqueror+KDevelop+QTDesigner opened and a new program will load in under 2 sec). Maybe not as fast as Explorer, but close enough. But at home I don't have a Internet connection. At work, with 56 MB RAM, and when using Konqi to surf the web, it gets slow. I would be very curious to see what my home comp would do if I was surfing the web with it.
I agree, KDE needs a lot to be done for speed. Still - too slow with 512 MB is very odd.
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Mako Shark
Originally posted by MrNiCeGUi:
I am using KDE 2.1 now, bth on my home computer and at work. At home, with 96 MB RAM ( I presume CPU power doesn't really count unless you're still using a Pentium) it is very snappy (mp3 playback, Konqueror+KDevelop+QTDesigner opened and a new program will load in under 2 sec). Maybe not as fast as Explorer, but close enough. But at home I don't have a Internet connection. At work, with 56 MB RAM, and when using Konqi to surf the web, it gets slow. I would be very curious to see what my home comp would do if I was surfing the web with it.
I agree, KDE needs a lot to be done for speed. Still - too slow with 512 MB is very odd.
Its not that it isnt 'fast enough'---but it is slower than Explorer for just about everything on an identical system.
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