Are there really much advantages to having a T1 data line?

[Recon]

what is banding?

Eh you can call it IMA or Banding, basically taking 2 connections and making one or 3 connections or 45 connections (to get t3)



Also you cant truely band DLS

[PCJ]

Is banding the same technology that is used for OC-3c lines? My old high school used one of those, and while the IT guy never really explained it to me, what I gathered was that is was basically three OC-1 lines that were combined somehow.

[Recon]

sortof but not really, banding fiber and banding twisted copper is a bit different.

the idea is the same though, taking multiple connections and making them run as one. TRUE banding though, not the hodg podg stuff you see poeple doing with 2 cable modems or 2 dls lines...

[rimmerchant]

TRUE banding though, not the hodg podg stuff you see poeple doing with 2 cable modems or 2 dls lines...

I thought that was just load balancing.

[vairox]

Yup, my neighbor has a T3 at home that his employer, NSA, pays for. Such a lucky guy. When I need to do a BIG download from Microsoft, I pay him a vist with a bottle or two for the favor.

that's badass...is he like a cryptologist or something or does he speak arabic? or would you have to kill me if you told me?

T1 was the shiz in the 90's but so was the voodoo series video cards, times have changed....still want someone to do something with the glide API

[ua549]

I have no idea what he does and I don't want to know. I do know that his regular office (unlisted) is buried in the basement of a nearby veterans hospital.

Usually there are no basements in my county because the water table is a couple of feet down from the surface. My sprinkler system runs from a 10' deep shallow well and delivers 70 gpm.

[Nater]

When I build my house, I'd consider getting a T1 line. The land is in a very unpopulated region, broadband will never be available. Well, except satellite and that sucks.

The big problem will be the big money for the pull, by the time I build my house, I may be able to afford a T3 when you consider that my pay will go up over time and bandwidth will drop. I've seen T3s as low as $1500 a month. That was through Speakeasy awhile back when I was checking for the hell of it.

[Recon]

You could always put up a tower and start your own WISP, I ran one for a while before comcast moved in and undercut me.

[Nater]

You could always put up a tower and start your own WISP, I ran one for a while before comcast moved in and undercut me.

How much speed are we talking? I've thought about becoming an 'ISP' for myself and my neighbors. I could at least subsidize a good portion of my costs, even make a decent profit, if I did this.

[ua549]

Just the legal costs of becoming a CLEC are extremely large.
You must deal with the FCC, state regulators, ...
Just to become a web host provider is tough and takes a large investment. You'll need to rent a fenced in area at a CO location for rack space. You'll have limited access to your equipment located in that space.

It is easier to become an agent for an existing ISP and that is not easy.

One of our members, James, does web design and hosting. He has a day job for his well being.

[Strogian]

ua459, but would any of that apply if he is a wireless ISP? No co-locating, no CLEC. And if it's 802.11 then it's unregulated, so no FCC?

[ua549]

He still must have an agreement with another provider to access the internet and obtain blocks of public IP addresses.
When reselling bandwidth, cost is based on traffic volume.
Two separate DNS servers are required on separate IPs.
Selling communications services is licensed and highly regulated right down to the local level. 802.11b/g being unregulated by the FCC simply means that individual transmitters need not be licensed by the FCC.

[Recon]

Just the legal costs of becoming a CLEC are extremely large.
You must deal with the FCC, state regulators, ...

One of our members, James, does web design and hosting. He has a day job for his well being.

FCC is only an issue if you go above certain wattage levels, its not that hard the only real issues are tower access and having licensed tower climbers. and if your talking about for a neighborhood well then you could do it off your room im talking about full sized FM radio towers or the slightly smaller cell towers, both of which I worked on.

We dropped our WISP due to it taking away from our web design/consulting business. But it was a relativly easy business to maintain, the hardest part was finding customers and customer instillations, because there was always a Tree/watertower in exactly the wrong space.

[ImaNihilist]

Usually there are no basements in my county because the water table is a couple of feet down from the surface. My sprinkler system runs from a 10' deep shallow well and delivers 70 gpm.

I was gonna' say, how is that even possible! You could hit water just digging with a shovel in my backyard when I lived in South Florida. Basements require major investment and planning to create.

[Recon]

Eh I wont buy a house without a basement, thats the man cave!

Though in michigan almost everyone unless the house is extreamly old has a basement.

Its the perfect place to put a home theater =P the only issue is having to have a grinder pump if your on a septic.

Grinder pumps make the poo poo go up the wall =P