The Official NFL Thread

[md1198p]

Cleveland got McCoy, he started and played well for a rookie. I can't see them giving up on him and getting Vick.

It's more important to have a great RT for a Vick, doubtful if Thomas (the LT) will swap if they go that route.

Interesting to see how long they take signing a CBA.

Tell that to the Eagles. Our right tackle and guard SUCK.

[md1198p]

Yeah but Brady won with 4 INTs, another with 50+ TDs which arn't going to be stats Rodgers gets (he just doesn't need to throw 400 yard games, plus at GB in Dec/Jan ain't throwing weather.)

He's a Top5 QB easily, Brady/Manning/Brees are clearly above him but Rodgers is really close behind.

Vick's contract is up if I recall, think Philly will deal him or just stick a tag on him and trade? I can't see anyone really taking him except SF or Jax? But SF already has Smith (1st Overall), Carr (1st Overall) and Troy Smith (Heisman winner) so there's isn't much room left there. Garrard's contract looks like a mongrel and probably too expensive for Jax to really get out of.

But your assuming those guys will do that every year. Its plain to me that Rodgers is gonna have MVP potential for the next 5-7 years unless something drastic happens.

He does not need to win a single one to be a better player than Favre in my eyes anyway. I am not a fan of players who have an excessive amount of turnovers no matter what their other stats are. Plus..Marino won 1 MVP, Cunningham won 2, but not many people would argue Cunningham was a better player.

[ajwest]

Tell that to the Eagles. Our right tackle and guard SUCK.

Eagles fan? haha, ouch.
Yeah weird, a left-hand QB needs a Peters at RT (or draft someone) but it just baffles me because Vick would rather rolling to his better side (outside LT) since its a easier throw for him to make. When I play Madden, I'm constantly rolling Sanchez out to the right and Keller's always there (Madden 09' so Sanchez was drafted and Keller was ninja'd in a fantasy draft haha).

But your assuming those guys will do that every year. Its plain to me that Rodgers is gonna have MVP potential for the next 5-7 years unless something drastic happens.

He does not need to win a single one to be a better player than Favre in my eyes anyway. I am not a fan of players who have an excessive amount of turnovers no matter what their other stats are. Plus..Marino won 1 MVP, Cunningham won 2, but not many people would argue Cunningham was a better player.

Whilst that's a good argument, I would make a better case for SuperBowls as they tend to be a better judge of how good a QB is when his paycheck is leading to a winning moment.
Since the Ravens in 2000, Manning (1), Brees (1), Brady (3) and Big Ben (2) Superbowls. I would agree with ranking those and calling them the Top 5 QBs. Plus Favre never got a MVP in the Superbowl either. Rodgers has 1.
Brady is pretty much ahead with his season, 4 INTs just makes others look bad.
Brees and Manning, to put up numbers like they do all the time isn't easy and when 31 teams all know your gameplan and most times can't stop you, it should speak volumes.
Big Ben just has a big frame, suits that atrocious OL that Pittsburgh has (sad when your Rookie is your best lineman...)

[MrDigital]

LIONS 2011! BET ON IT!*







*only bet that the Lions will still exist as a team.

[ajwest]

LIONS 2011! BET ON IT!*







*only bet that the Lions will still exist as a team.

How much you putting up boss?
I could use some extra US money.

[Spaceman Spiff]

How much you putting up boss?
I could use some extra US money.

The large print giveth, and the small print taketh away...

[MrDigital]

The large print giveth, and the small print taketh away...

Maybe he doesn't think the Lions will actually exist in the 2011 season. I'll take that bet! Gonna be another good offseason I bet. We need to pick up a shutdown corner and the Lions are going 10-6 this year!

[ajwest]

The large print giveth, and the small print taketh away...

I'm unable to read small print due to my horrible Russian-itis.
Now pony up there Spiff!

[PriMaTe]

They moved the kickoffs up to the 35 yrd line, get ready for 8 touchbacks a game. The giants kicker, Tynes might actually be able to pull off a touchback now!

I don't like this move even though it helps the giants with their weak special teams. It's going to cut out a lot of the kick off return game

[Snakespy]

I have converted. Go Lions! Stafford is a beast.

Al Davis finally died, which is the best thing that has happened to the Raiders in a very long time.

Not sure if I am more surprised that after the Eagles built a "super" team are 1-4, or out of nowhere the Bills are 5-0.

[[PinPals]Apu]

Al Davis finally died, which is the best thing that has happened to the Raiders in a very long time.

Not sure if I am more surprised that after the Eagles built a "super" team are 1-4, or out of nowhere the Bills are 5-0.

Bills are 4-1, and I dont know why youre celebrating Davis' death. He may have done a poor job with the Raiders the past few years but he's done a ton for the game of football.

[Gar]

Bills are 4-1, and I dont know why youre celebrating Davis' death. He may have done a poor job with the Raiders the past few years but he's done a ton for the game of football.

He's just bitter being a Broncos fan, which reminds me how well have they fared the last few seasons?

At least the Silver & Black are headed in the right direction, and Davis will be missed by anyone who was a true football fan.

[Snakespy]

Yeah I meant 4-1. I HATE the Raiders. I still blame Josh McDaniel's sabotage of the Broncos on Al Davis. It's all his fault.

[MrDigital]

LIONS 2011! BET ON IT!

I don't even need the asterisk this time! 5-0, outrageous. I was at the MNF football game this week at Ford Field, holy hell was it loud. I've never seen a game begin with what, 3 straight false starts? And like 5 in the first 2 plays. My ears were still ringing the next day.

What a glorious time to be a Lions fan! And now Fairley is playing, making their defense that much stronger.

[Spank_Me_Hard]

I don't even need the asterisk this time! 5-0, outrageous. I was at the MNF football game this week at Ford Field, holy hell was it loud. I've never seen a game begin with what, 3 straight false starts? And like 5 in the first 2 plays. My ears were still ringing the next day.

What a glorious time to be a Lions fan! And now Fairley is playing, making their defense that much stronger.

I thought that Detroit was improving, but thought that your prediction was rather insane. ATM, it appears that you are right.

I am rather impressed with Detroit. Their young QB looks mature beyond his years. Calvin Johnson looks to me like the best WR in the NFL. I'm not sure that anybody can cover him 1 vs. 1 right now... Revis included. I'm still angry that the Raiders took JaMarcus Russell over him... was angry at the time and am even more angry now.

My roomie is actually a Lions fan. And I've talked with him at length about the Lions. We both agree that Suh is an utter monster... and will probably only get even better. The defence is playing very well. We also both seem to agree that the weakness on offence is the offensive line. And that on defence it's the secondary. If Detroit could manage to get a shutdown corner, they'd be pretty insane.

I'm actually becoming a bit of a fan myself. It's great to see them rising from the bottom of the trash heap of the NFL for so many years to do what they are doing now. Good for the city of Detroit.

Their biggest test will be how they fare against Green Bay. Personally, here is where I think that they'll get smoked.