will mac OSX lion work on my xps m1330 and not too hard for a virgin mac OS user?

[ImaNihilist]

so the only people actually "working" are CAD people and computer janitors?

That whole internet thing is probably just a fad. I don't know why anyone would use it to be honest.

[Timman_24]

The new final cut has made a lot of people switch to premiere. IMO apple is moving away from the professional market and is aiming directly at the "consumer."

[ImaNihilist]

The new final cut has made a lot of people switch to premiere. IMO apple is moving away from the professional market and is aiming directly at the "consumer."

A lot of people threatened to switch. Not a lot of people actually did. They fixed most of the issues in the last patch. The added multi-cam, fixed chroma keying and layered objects, added XML support, and FCPX now has better multimonitor support. They've publicly said they are going to add MXF plugin and full RED support this year, along with a few other features.

If they really weren't concerned about the pro market, they wouldn't be spending so much time adding pro features to FCP X. It's not like you were going to be able to just switch from FCP7 to FCPX on day 1 anyway. There are some huge workflow changes. I think what they wanted to see was if people were actually open to those changes. I think for the most part people are, they just want all the other features that are kind of necessary for a production shop (like XML support).

[Steven P Jobs]

I think the issue was that they marketed FCPX as a finished retail product from day one rather than doing something similar to a large-scale developer preview.

[Geforce255]

so the only people actually "working" are CAD people and computer janitors? Even when you limit your focus to engineers it's still simply not true anymore.

Dude, YOU said "Engineering Software." Those packages are what professional Engineers use. God knows I work with enough of them.

Also, the Windows platform remains the overwhelmingly dominate computing platform, with Visual Studio and .Net continuing to be the overwhelming development environment.

If, or when this changes, it will change to Linux, not Max, regardless of what Fan Bois want.

[Geforce255]

That whole internet thing is probably just a fad. I don't know why anyone would use it to be honest.

Yeah, the entire internet is hosted on a MacBook Pro, they're THAT awesome...

[Steven P Jobs]

Dude, YOU said "Engineering Software." Those packages are what professional Engineers use. God knows I work with enough of them.

Also, the Windows platform remains the overwhelmingly dominate computing platform, with Visual Studio and .Net continuing to be the overwhelming development environment.

If, or when this changes, it will change to Linux, not Max, regardless of what Fan Bois want.

1. No I didn't, and that aside there's more than one type of engineering.
2. I'd wager that as of right now there's more money to be made from developing in Obj-C than in any other language. Maybe if you throw all the web languages under one umbrella they would add up to be more lucrative. In terms of revenue per developer Obj-C probably loses out to some decrepit language that is needed to keep ancient systems running.
3. The only systems that will ever change to Linux on a meaningful scale are ones with dedicated computer janitors. Anyone who thinks otherwise needs to look back at how many years they've been making the same silly prediction.

[ImaNihilist]

Dude, YOU said "Engineering Software." Those packages are what professional Engineers use. God knows I work with enough of them.

Also, the Windows platform remains the overwhelmingly dominate computing platform, with Visual Studio and .Net continuing to be the overwhelming development environment.

If, or when this changes, it will change to Linux, not Max, regardless of what Fan Bois want.

The majority of software engineering jobs and job postings in the US are not .NET and Visual Studio.

What does that have to do with "fan bois"?

It's very difficult to understand what you are so angry about.

[ImaNihilist]

Yeah, the entire internet is hosted on a MacBook Pro, they're THAT awesome...

What does that have to do with anything?

[proxops-pete]

so the only people actually "working" are CAD people and computer janitors? Even when you limit your focus to engineers it's still simply not true anymore.

I don't know ... I am an engineer and know plenty of engineers... and we don't really use Macs... I have however seen some NASA engineers with Macbook Pros... but due to cost, most of us contractor-based engineers work with Linux and Windows

[Nick_B]

I don't know ... I am an engineer and know plenty of engineers... and we don't really use Macs... I have however seen some NASA engineers with Macbook Pros... but due to cost, most of us contractor-based engineers work with Linux and Windows

I see a lot of this, too. I'm removed from the field now, but even a few years ago it was becoming very common for engineers to carry around a Macbook and have a Linux workstation.