Tried Android again and was burned again

[Steven P Jobs]

IMO if you use GMail, it's one of the few things where Android is way better than iOS.

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IMO if you use GMail, it's one of the few things where Android is way better than iOS.

I was thinking about trying an iPhone when the new ones come out. I use GMail and Google Voice a lot. I already know that GV won't be as integrated on an iOS device, but what makes GMail so much better on Android than iOS?

[Steven P Jobs]

iOS treats tags as folders, implements the archive somewhat clumsily, and a bunch of other issues that come with hacking an existing mail client to support GMail's nonstandard features instead of building one around GMail from the ground up.

That being said I do most of my email on my iPad these days. It's less than perfect, but it gets the job done for me. Shame that google is absolutely incompetent at writing iOS apps (see the official GMail app that got pulled after less than a day and clearly didn't get tested by anyone at Google for even one second before it got submitted to the App Store).

edit: turns out they re-released the GMail app, but it's still pretty bad. Lack of push notifications makes it basically useless, and because it uses UIWebView instead of native code, a lot of stuff is kind of klutzy.

[Steven P Jobs]

Here's a long rant on why GMail is bad on iOS. It's not as awful as the guy makes it out to be, but it's still inferior to its Android counterpart by a long stretch. I haven't used GMail on an Android tablet so I can't comment on that.

http://www.theverge.com/2012/6/9/307...d-why-it-sucks

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Wow. I may just stick with Android. That sucks.

[Nabby]

Here's a long rant on why GMail is bad on iOS. It's not as awful as the guy makes it out to be, but it's still inferior to its Android counterpart by a long stretch. I haven't used GMail on an Android tablet so I can't comment on that.

http://www.theverge.com/2012/6/9/307...d-why-it-sucks

I agree with using either or of the available solutions. I use Gmail account as my email with 15 minute polling. I also turn off the archive instead of delete option. For contacts/calendar I use my google account in exchange mode. So email via gmail config and exchange config for cal/contacts. It's a nice medium.

The gmail app on android has it's own issues:

1) no pinch to zoom. Any email that has HTML will require you to scroll from side to side. Really annoying if you ask me.

2) No unified inbox. This is the biggest problem for me. I like my unified inbox on IOS mail app.

As for the EVO 4G LTE, it is going back. The data network sucks on Sprint and I found a hardware bug with the phone. If power is plugged in and you connect your headphone port to an aux port on a car it produces bad static. Tested on 3 devices and 2 cars. Nice device otherwise.

[mikeysg]

I like what I see when I used my Android powered devices - Galaxy 5830 and Galaxy Tab 7.7 - so much so that I've just gotten another Android phone, the newly launched Galaxy S III Pebble Blue with ICS. Man, I dunno if I'm an Android man, or merely a Samsung fanboy...

[Nabby]

I like what I see when I used my Android powered devices - Galaxy 5830 and Galaxy Tab 7.7 - so much so that I've just gotten another Android phone, the newly launched Galaxy S III Pebble Blue with ICS. Man, I dunno if I'm an Android man, or merely a Samsung fanboy...

It looks like a nice phone but don't drop it . Every drop test I have seen has caused a fair amount of damage. Especially when you nail that screen in any way.

[mikeysg]

Something wonky is going on here, on my desktop and Galaxy S3, I see my avatar as the EF logo, but on my Tab 7.7, I see this pic of a girl pointing to her cheek with the word 'ara' painted on.....wth is going on?

[Vindir]

Try a different browser on the tab? Might be doing something funky with caching.

[Nabby]

Try a different browser on the tab? Might be doing something funky with caching.

Yeah, just clear the cache. No cookies or history, just plain cache.

[mikeysg]

Hey, thanks guys, that did the trick! Cleared cache and history and whatnot and it is back to my EF avatar. I was worried for a moment, thought it was a virus from one of the *cough* sites *cough* I had visited....

[Nabby]

I have officially confirmed the following:

The Sprint network isn't as bad as I originally thought. In fact the HTC 4G LTE Evo is the bane of my recent testing with Android. Went through the the same scenario with a Sprint LTE Evo and a Sprint iPhone 4s and the iPhone was better for data and voice coverage in the same area.

In the same test my iPhone 4s on ATT was perfect for calls with full bars of coverage but terrible with data. My data network connection kept dropping and I wouldn't get much more then 200kbps when it did connect.

In regular usage the Sprint Data network is slower then ATT but in this scenario it was more reliable.

BTW, this is around San Jose International Airport Area in California if anyone is interested to know.

[Nabby]

Bringing this back to life!

I'm getting my Verizon Samsung Galaxy S3 tomorrow in the mail. Looking forward to playing with

[ImaNihilist]

I'm probably going to get a Nexus 7 when it comes out, even if only for dev purposes.

A lot of people I know have Android phones now, but no one seems to really like them. They like a particular app, but find the OS itself confusing. My wife has an Android phone now. Gmai and Maps are good, everything else is kind of horrendous. The UI is just so inconsistent between apps and between devices that it's kind of a nightmare. I'm not even sure that it's appropriate to call Android an OS. It's more like a framework that each handset manufacturer uses to create their own OS. The only thing really portable between versions and devices is your Google Account.

I can't really imagine ever using a version of Android that isn't the plain vanilla Google version, and even then it has problems. From what I've seen, Jellybean on the Nexus 7 seems to be a step in the right direction, but I'll have to get it in my hands to see.