Adobe heralds subscription-only future for Photoshop and Creative Suite

[richardginn]

http://www.dpreview.com/news/2013/05...ative-cloud-cc



BBBBBBBBBBOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!

[kujoe2002]

only way to keep making money. when the old versions do everything that so many users need, why buy the new stuff?

[richardginn]

only way to keep making money. when the old versions do everything that so many users need, why buy the new stuff?

Some people would like to own the software, NOTTT have to lease it.

[kujoe2002]

Some people would like to own the software, NOTTT have to lease it.

I'm one of them. But the same issue lies in that if what I currently am using (regardless of what company it is) does everything I need, why should I spend more money to buy something new? This is a way to circumvent that making it so people must continue to pay to keep using a product. This is also why I try to buy a hardcopy CD/DVD of any software. This is the same principle of owning property vs renting. Adobe has not come out with anything new and probably won't for a long time. I think we're at a point in technology where we can expect to see a lot of staggering of innovation. I think this is also the reason Apple, Google and Samsung have been engaged in patent wars. I think cloud is another means of making people have to continue to pay to use a companies software/hardware. Hence why I love open source (FF, Open office, etc).

[richardginn]

I'm one of them. But the same issue lies in that if what I currently am using (regardless of what company it is) does everything I need, why should I spend more money to buy something new? This is a way to circumvent that making it so people must continue to pay to keep using a product. This is also why I try to buy a hardcopy CD/DVD of any software. This is the same principle of owning property vs renting. Adobe has not come out with anything new and probably won't for a long time. I think we're at a point in technology where we can expect to see a lot of staggering of innovation. I think this is also the reason Apple, Google and Samsung have been engaged in patent wars. I think cloud is another means of making people have to continue to pay to use a companies software/hardware. Hence why I love open source (FF, Open office, etc).

I like open source, but even programs like Open Office are far from being the NEW standard.

From the posts I have seen online they have been mostly negative on this. To me the only people that win in this deal are people that always update every single time a new master collection comes out. People that skip a version before updating loose.

[kujoe2002]

I like open source, but even programs like Open Office are far from being the NEW standard.

This is because of two a few reasons. The primary and most important reason is that the developers are not spending millions of dollars in advertising campaigns. If there was a multibillion dollar company as the funding source, I'm sure that OO would become a flagship product of business.

[rimmerchant]

Isn't there a new name for Open Office now?

anyway OO is a great piece of software. MS office IMHO is too bloated. sure it have tons of innovate features but for the majority of the people out there that the features of OO suffice

[James]

Isn't there a new name for Open Office now?

Apache Openoffice or Libreoffice are the two main flavors.

The original OpenOffice was owned by Sun, and thus eventually Oracle. Because nobody trusts Oracle with open source, Libreoffice was born. Eventually, the Apache foundation took over Open Office and Oracle was out of it, but not before Libreoffice had gained a foothold in the open source community. So now we have both.

[richardginn]

How about a RENT-TO-OWN model here for Adobe Software.

20 bucks a month for one year for one piece of Adobe Software. After one year I own that version of the software. I do not get any more feature or version upgrades, but I still get to run the software with no problems.

[vertices]

I've been an Adobe subscriber for about 2 years now. It's a great to have all the products. It's only $30 a month for me but I think $50 for new subscribers. Even still, at $50 that's $600 a year. Master suite was how much to buy? How many years would it take to pay for it? What if you bought it then a year later decided you liked something else better? Guess that's a lost investment if you bought it.

Not only that but we expect them to keep working after the sale right? Please update security issues in this. Please update this to be compatible with newer software and OS's.

I think the software subscription model is here to stay and is in fact superior. Everyone is so quick to jump on the negative aspects of subscribing to software but not so quick to acknowledge the benefits.

[ImaNihilist]

I've been an Adobe subscriber for about 2 years now. It's a great to have all the products. It's only $30 a month for me but I think $50 for new subscribers. Even still, at $50 that's $600 a year. Master suite was how much to buy? How many years would it take to pay for it? What if you bought it then a year later decided you liked something else better? Guess that's a lost investment if you bought it.

Not only that but we expect them to keep working after the sale right? Please update security issues in this. Please update this to be compatible with newer software and OS's.

I think the software subscription model is here to stay and is in fact superior. Everyone is so quick to jump on the negative aspects of subscribing to software but not so quick to acknowledge the benefits.

IIRC, Master Suite has ranged from $2,500 to $3,000. At current subscription prices ($30-$50/mo) you are talking about 4 to 7 YEARS before purchasing is cheaper.

Most version of CS from 4 years ago don't even work properly on the latest OS.

For certain kinds of applications the subscription model makes total sense. This is one of those kinds of applications.

I think we've reached a point with consumer technology where rentals make more sense, because we simply don't support system more than 5 years old anymore. Whether that's hardware or software. The odds that something 5 years old works, and works correctly, isn't very good anymore.

[richardginn]

I've been an Adobe subscriber for about 2 years now. It's a great to have all the products. It's only $30 a month for me but I think $50 for new subscribers. Even still, at $50 that's $600 a year. Master suite was how much to buy? How many years would it take to pay for it? What if you bought it then a year later decided you liked something else better? Guess that's a lost investment if you bought it.

Not only that but we expect them to keep working after the sale right? Please update security issues in this. Please update this to be compatible with newer software and OS's.

I think the software subscription model is here to stay and is in fact superior. Everyone is so quick to jump on the negative aspects of subscribing to software but not so quick to acknowledge the benefits.

Sure you do have benefits to subscription model, BUTTT many people did skip generations when upgrading programs like Adobe Photoshop. 50 Bucks a month is a fair price for all the software they sell, but when you can't afford it you can't use it anymore. Without addressing the negative parts to Adobe's plan and making changes to it they are going to be in some major problems with the consumer.

[ImaNihilist]

Sure you do have benefits to subscription model, BUTTT many people did skip generations when upgrading programs like Adobe Photoshop. 50 Bucks a month is a fair price for all the software they sell, but when you can't afford it you can't use it anymore. Without addressing the negative parts to Adobe's plan and making changes to it they are going to be in some major problems with the consumer.

For Photoshop only, it's $20/mo. CS 6 retailed for $700. So if you set aside the same amount of money it would last you three years.

[kujoe2002]

A lot of it comes down to what will you use? I think the majority of consumers won't have a need for the likes of CS6+. Hell most people don't even know how to fully use MS paint. If you are in an industry that utilizes graphic art, then it would make sense but for the average user, it's not a practical investment. Hell GIMP is free and had dozens of tools similar to Adobe.

[ImaNihilist]

A lot of it comes down to what will you use? I think the majority of consumers won't have a need for the likes of CS6+. Hell most people don't even know how to fully use MS paint. If you are in an industry that utilizes graphic art, then it would make sense but for the average user, it's not a practical investment. Hell GIMP is free and had dozens of tools similar to Adobe.

There's actually been some really cool stuff on the consumer side coming out for Mac recently. Pixelmator and Sketch in particular are quite good Adobe replacements.