Website Frames

**cmathes** · 04-12-2001, 07:59 PM

Hi there! I am bulding a website with 3 frames, one on top, one on the left, and one in the bottom right. Now, is there anyway to limit the size of the frame in the bottom right to say like 400x400 pixels? Right now, it just goes with how big the browser window is, instead of being locked to one size. Thanks!

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**muisejt** · 04-12-2001, 08:21 PM

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**Grizzly** · 04-13-2001, 12:48 AM

You sure can. I'm not sure why you would want to do it this way, but here's how that would be accomplished:

**richardginn** · 04-13-2001, 08:42 AM

are you sure you don't want tables.

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**cmathes** · 04-14-2001, 10:37 PM

Tried that, seemed to make it like that frame has to be the specified size, and will cover up other frames to be that big, if you know what i mean. What I need is to have top frame 700x130, left frame 130x500, and the bottom right "main" frame to be 569x500. Is there any way to do this? I want to make it to where if the user makes the browser bigger than the page, is designed, there will just be white space. I tried tables, but i want the bottom right frame to have its own scroll bar, so that wouldnt work out. Thanks alot!

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**Grizzly** · 04-14-2001, 10:53 PM

You might want to look into using tables, and "iframes." Look up Iframes somewhere...they're pretty cool. Basically all they are, is a "frame" which can be positioned anywhere. So you would contain this site in a table, and use an iframe in that "main" area you want a scroll bar in.

Unfortunately, Netscape doesn't really support Iframes...along with alot of other things

Netscape always spoils the party, heh.

Or...we could look into making this frameset have an extra column, and an extra row which will fill in the extra space that will appear on larger resolutions. Lotta different ways to slice it really...

Iframes would look and operate alot better in my opinion...but we're still left with that Netscape issue. It's up to you buddy. Get back to me on how you want to do it...and I can write the Frameset for you if you'd like.

**cmathes** · 04-15-2001, 09:12 PM

Well, I decided to just go with tables, and I did consider iFrames, but no netscrape support can not work, since 40%+ of my visitors use it

. Oh well, hopefully I can make tables look good. One other thing with frames, once I get them alignet right in IE/NS6/Opera etc, i load it in NS4, and the alignment is all off. If this can be fixed, I will go with frames, just not sure how. Thanks again!

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**Grizzly** · 04-16-2001, 07:46 AM

Hmmm, there's no reason why the frames should be mis-aligned in Netscape. Show us your Freamset code as it stands right now.

**drdray** · 04-16-2001, 12:03 PM

better yet give a link to your website.

it's always easyer to read code when you see the out put. I got all the main browsers on my pc, so i'll take a look and see if there is a difference. But im pretty sure that the difference is not big. Only thing that make frames look misaligned is that NS4 has a bit different understanding of spacing. If you compare same page in IE and NS you will notice that NS tool bar is a big larger and sets a lil bit bigger off set. Also, NS has a bit larger offset overall.

Here is few things to place in your webste's <body> tag. LEFTMARGIN="0" TOPMARGIN="0" MARGINWIDTH="0" MARGINHEIGHT="0"

Above will make your pages ignore any offsets from IE or NS and start at very top and very left of the browser window. There will always be some difference between NS and IE.(they are 2 different browsers

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So dont worry bout it, just make sure you got your pages working the way you want em to, lil misalignment isn't a big problem.

P.S. excuse the spelling heh.

[This message has been edited by drdray (edited April 16, 2001).]

**kid A** · 04-18-2001, 07:19 PM

Originally posted by Grizzly:
You might want to look into using tables, and "iframes." Look up Iframes somewhere...they're pretty cool. Basically all they are, is a "frame" which can be positioned anywhere. So you would contain this site in a table, and use an iframe in that "main" area you want a scroll bar in.

Unfortunately, Netscape doesn't really support Iframes...along with alot of other things Netscape always spoils the party, heh.

Or...we could look into making this frameset have an extra column, and an extra row which will fill in the extra space that will appear on larger resolutions. Lotta different ways to slice it really...

Iframes would look and operate alot better in my opinion...but we're still left with that Netscape issue. It's up to you buddy. Get back to me on how you want to do it...and I can write the Frameset for you if you'd like.

Silly Netscape. I would be using Iframes if it weren't for them. Why doesn't everyone just stop using Netscrape or why don't they pull themselves together and make a decent browser like they used to??

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