Which language was windows 9x/2k made with?

[jaaaje]

Hi, i'm new to programming...I'm just wondering what language the MS OS's were made in and what language games like quake3/half-life were made in. I'm guessing C++; but it seems kind of unbelievable for some reason. I have a book on C++, but the type of graphics it talks about is artari type graphics, although it is a book for beginners.

[This message has been edited by jaaaje (edited June 23, 2001).]

[jkresh]

I believe that they were done in c++, if you look at mfc (Microsoft foundation classes) you can do windows graphics in C++, it is just much harder then in vb. If you really want to do windows level graphics in C++ look at visual studio.net, all the languages have access to windows forms (like vb) and it makes graphical programming much easier.

[The_Hitman]

Originally posted by jkresh:
I believe that they were done in c++, if you look at mfc (Microsoft foundation classes) you can do windows graphics in C++, it is just much harder then in vb. If you really want to do windows level graphics in C++ look at visual studio.net, all the languages have access to windows forms (like vb) and it makes graphical programming much easier.

Whatever it was, it didnt work very well because programming in windows is a mess of crap to deal with... its a wasteland of badly designed API's and poorly documented calls.

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[reklis]

The stuff that's native to the STL sucks. That's why you go get the OpenGL or DirectX SDK's and use those for your 3D games and such. Learn C++ first, then just grab the SDK and read the man pages.

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[dighn]

Originally posted by reklis:
The stuff that's native to the STL sucks. That's why you go get the OpenGL or DirectX SDK's and use those for your 3D games and such. Learn C++ first, then just grab the SDK and read the man pages.

STL provides no graphical capabilities. In fact the whole C++ standard library doesn't provide any graphics routines AFAIK. The graphics code was probably done using assembler and Windows 9x was probably made with C and assembler because the Win32 API is designed for programming in C... MFC is just a wrapper library for Win32API

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[patssle]

hasnt anybody seen the source code for Windows XP that got stolen? just look at that...

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256 MB DDR RAM
40 GB 7200 RPM Hardrive
13 GB 7200 RPM Hardrive
12x/10x/32x CDRW
16x DVD
32 MB graphic card


Current System:

Pentium II 350 mhz
244 MB 100mhz SDRAM
2x 13 GB 7200 RPM Hardrives
12x/10x/32x CDRW
100MB Zip
32 MB graphic card

[The_Hitman]

I will save you time of searching for it yourself...


/* Source Code to Windows XP */

#include "win31.h"
#include "win95.h"
#include "winnt.h"
#include "evenmore.h"
#include "oldstuff.h"
#include "billrulz.h"
#include "monopoly.h"
#define INSTALL = HARD

char make_prog_look_big[1600000];
void main()
{
while(!CRASHED)
{
display_copyright_message();
display_bill_rules_message();
do_nothing_loop();
if (first_time_installation)
{
make_50_megabyte_swapfile();
do_nothing_loop();
totally_screw_up_HPFS_file_system();
search_and_destroy_the_rest_of_OS/2();
search_and_destroy_linux();
disable_Netscape();
disable_RealPlayer();
disable_Corel_Products();
hang_system();
}

write_something(anything);
display_copyright_message();
do_nothing_loop();
do_some_stuff();

if (still_not_crashed)
{
display_copyright_message();
do_nothing_loop();
basically_run_windows_3.1();
do_nothing_loop();
do_nothing_loop();
}
}

if (detect_cache())
disable_cache();

if (fast_cpu())
{
set_wait_states(lots);
set_mouse(speed, very_slow);
set_mouse(action, jumpy);
set_mouse(reaction, sometimes);
}

/* printf("Welcome to Windows 3.11"); */
/* printf("Welcome to Windows 95"); */
/* printf("Welcome to Windows 98"); */
/* printf("Welcome to Windows ME"); */
/* printf("Welcome to Windows 2000"); */
printf("Welcome to Windows XP");

if (system_ok())
crash(to_dos_prompt)
else
system_memory = open("a:\swp0001.swp", O_CREATE);

while(something)
{
sleep(5);
get_user_input();
sleep(5);
act_on_user_input();
sleep(5);
check_for_and_screw_up_lilo();
}
create_general_protection_fault();
}

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[This message has been edited by The_Hitman (edited June 25, 2001).]

[This message has been edited by The_Hitman (edited June 25, 2001).]

[namgor]

I stole another piece of MS Windows XP code and it pretty much similar to this one, I can verify the code isnt false.

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[patssle]

whoa, havnt seen that in years. nice to know some people still keep it on their hardrives, lol.

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-If only AOL sent their software on a CDRW

System Being Built:

AMD Athlon 1.4ghz 266fsb
256 MB DDR RAM
40 GB 7200 RPM Hardrive
13 GB 7200 RPM Hardrive
12x/10x/32x CDRW
16x DVD
32 MB graphic card


Current System:

Pentium II 350 mhz
244 MB 100mhz SDRAM
2x 13 GB 7200 RPM Hardrives
12x/10x/32x CDRW
100MB Zip
32 MB graphic card

[Fiddler]

The OS is most likely a combination of C++ and assembler. there's some low level hardware/bios stuff that you must use assembler for.

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[Zoma]

Esperanto.

Actually, Windows is probably written in C/C++/ASM. Lower level things were probably done in ASM, obviously. I'm guessing the GUI was layed down in C and then most of it was written in C++. That's just a guess, but I'm sure it's not that far off.

Oh yeah, and the kernel was made partly in GWBASIC, and partly with a special mix of herbs and spices. The TCP code was done in NES assembly.

[Zoma]

Quake 3 - Id still used straight C for Q3, I'm pretty sure. Doom 3 will be the first game that they make they will be done in C++ (Unreal was done in C++).

Half-Life was based on the Quake 1 engine, so it started off in straight C (obviously with some ASM in there). Valve added a lot to the existing code, but I'm going to GUESS that they stuck with straight C.

[wirewolf]

I'm not sure about 2k or XP but I do know that 95/98 is about 90% pascal... i'm assuming that the other 10% was a language written solely for the purpose of displaying blue screens :P

[biosx]

lol, Pascal.

I think one of the Mac OS's was done in Pascal.

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