Which way to go: p4 1.6a O/C'd, or Xp1900+

**gemini8026** · 05-02-2002, 03:02 PM

Hi guys, im selling my T-bird 1.2 to my sister on June 1st. So I have a month to decide upon my next system.

Before I was sold that I would just buy an Xp processor and be done with it. But I noticed that the p4 when overclocked to 2+ ghz, it becomes faster in many apps then the athlonXP.

So I could pick up a 1.6A and hope that it hits 2+ ghz, or else pick up a Xp1900+ and overclock it very moderately(too damn hot to really push)

Either way, im gonna run a mobo with DDR ram, not rambus. So ddr333 would be my ram of choice. So im sure this affects the p4 system's performance?

Can someone out there recommend whats my best route for performance? I do a lot of musical editing (Cubase VST, Sonar) and 3d graphics work (3dsmax,lightwave)

Keeping in mind, ill use this with DDR333(pc2700 ram), a IBM 60 gig hard drive (120gxp), midiman audiophile sound card, Geforce 3 Ti200...... mobo and processor are still up in the air.

Lastly, what are some numbers that guys are hitting with the 1.6A? I heard the odd few can hit 2.4!

**Rich1988** · 05-02-2002, 03:10 PM

if you want to save a few bucks, go with the 1900. If you want to overclock, get the 1.6a. It can get to 2.1 without breaking a sweat, get some good cooling and you can probably get to 2.3-4 easy.

**d_k** · 05-02-2002, 04:37 PM

Originally posted by Rich1988
if you want to save a few bucks, go with the 1900. If you want to overclock, get the 1.6a. It can get to 2.1 without breaking a sweat, get some good cooling and you can probably get to 2.3-4 easy.

Well with a P4 1.6A youre almost garaunteed to hit 2.4ghz . Its a tough vhoice and deppends on your preference.

**kpxgq** · 05-02-2002, 04:53 PM

i would personally fo with the 1.6 because I just want a change of pace (recnetly built 2 athlon systems, 1 duron, and 1 xp).... either would go very well

**Trav2003** · 05-02-2002, 04:58 PM

Originally posted by gemini8026
Hi guys, im selling my T-bird 1.2 to my sister on June 1st. So I have a month to decide upon my next system.

Before I was sold that I would just buy an Xp processor and be done with it. But I noticed that the p4 when overclocked to 2+ ghz, it becomes faster in many apps then the athlonXP.

So I could pick up a 1.6A and hope that it hits 2+ ghz, or else pick up a Xp1900+ and overclock it very moderately(too damn hot to really push)

Either way, im gonna run a mobo with DDR ram, not rambus. So ddr333 would be my ram of choice. So im sure this affects the p4 system's performance?

Can someone out there recommend whats my best route for performance? I do a lot of musical editing (Cubase VST, Sonar) and 3d graphics work (3dsmax,lightwave)

Keeping in mind, ill use this with DDR333(pc2700 ram), a IBM 60 gig hard drive (120gxp), midiman audiophile sound card, Geforce 3 Ti200...... mobo and processor are still up in the air.

Lastly, what are some numbers that guys are hitting with the 1.6A? I heard the odd few can hit 2.4!

If you can hit anything over 2Ghz with the 1.6a (highly possible) then you'll have a better performing system, so i'd go with that and couple it with a good cooler...

A 1.6 is cheaper (or right at) the price of an XP1900+ so an XP really isn't cheaper...

**AMD Soldier** · 05-02-2002, 05:02 PM

To put it in very simply terms...

1.6a will OC on average to 2.4

Now if you use DDR ram it will perform like a 2.0-1 RDRAM system.

The 1900XP performs roughly around the 2-2.2a to a P4 system with RDRAM. So keep that in mind dude.

Basically you'd need to have a 2.4-6ghz P4 with DDR to perform with the 1900XP. And only need 2-2.2 with RDRAM to match the 1900.

Everytime I read something like this, seems that a lot of ppl forget this...

Originally posted by gemini8026
Hi guys, im selling my T-bird 1.2 to my sister on June 1st. So I have a month to decide upon my next system.

Before I was sold that I would just buy an Xp processor and be done with it. But I noticed that the p4 when overclocked to 2+ ghz, it becomes faster in many apps then the athlonXP.

So I could pick up a 1.6A and hope that it hits 2+ ghz, or else pick up a Xp1900+ and overclock it very moderately(too damn hot to really push)

Either way, im gonna run a mobo with DDR ram, not rambus. So ddr333 would be my ram of choice. So im sure this affects the p4 system's performance?

Can someone out there recommend whats my best route for performance? I do a lot of musical editing (Cubase VST, Sonar) and 3d graphics work (3dsmax,lightwave)

Keeping in mind, ill use this with DDR333(pc2700 ram), a IBM 60 gig hard drive (120gxp), midiman audiophile sound card, Geforce 3 Ti200...... mobo and processor are still up in the air.

Lastly, what are some numbers that guys are hitting with the 1.6A? I heard the odd few can hit 2.4!

**CrawlingEye** · 05-02-2002, 05:19 PM

Not really, AFAIK, the AXP at stock competes with the P4a at stock.
There's no real definite winner. ICWT.

**AMD Soldier** · 05-02-2002, 05:54 PM

Originally posted by CrawlingEye
Not really, AFAIK, the AXP at stock competes with the P4a at stock.
There's no real definite winner. ICWT.

I disagree. Of course it depends what programs your using, some are better for others as you know, but I was just giving a general viewsite.

And as I was saying before, depends a lot of the platform (DDR vs RDRAM, and chipsets, etc).

**gateways_rule** · 05-02-2002, 06:38 PM

The P4 1.6A. You're almost guaranteed clock speeds.

**d_k** · 05-02-2002, 06:52 PM

Well said AMD Soldier but I think youre a bit off on the numbers. A 2.4ghz P4 with DDR at high speeds ( FSB : Mem ratio ) like 400mhz ( 3/5) will perform like a 2.4NW with RDRAM

It depends on how you set up your memory settings.

On the other hand if you pick up a Abit th7 II and Samsung PC800 RDRAM you can get some very good results ( ask Maximus

)

**CrawlingEye** · 05-02-2002, 07:18 PM

I (hope) to reclaim the 1.6a in OCing in the name of DDR, when I get mine.

We'll see how it goes...

**SCUMBAG** · 05-02-2002, 07:22 PM

I prefer the P4's superior thermal protection. I had an old T-bird party rig burn up when I failed to check the HS/F after transport. This is a non-issue with the P4. It will throttle back and give you time to save your work and shutdown properly.

**Indus** · 05-02-2002, 08:03 PM

Well there's 3 ways to look upon it.

You can overclock a 1.6 to 2.2ghz on average. But you can also overclock a 1900+ to 2200+ easily so that's an even match.

However you can unlock the Athlon XP and run it at 200+ FSB (400FSB DDR).. and match the performance of any overclocked P4 with Rambus.

Its a stalemate basically. I'd go with a 1900+ if you want to unlock the CPU. If you just want to overclock the easy way, go with Intel. If you don't want to overclock at all, go with the 1900+.

**Nova101** · 05-02-2002, 10:16 PM

If you go AMD, don't forget that you need a high quality heat sink, more fans and a more powerful PSU than you would need with a P4. Some people even argue you need a higher quality case that has better cooling.

All this adds into the price equation. And if you at all prize a quiet computer, all of the above can cost quiet a bit.

**CrawlingEye** · 05-02-2002, 10:49 PM

Originally posted by Indus
Well there's 3 ways to look upon it.

You can overclock a 1.6 to 2.2ghz on average. But you can also overclock a 1900+ to 2200+ easily so that's an even match.

However you can unlock the Athlon XP and run it at 200+ FSB (400FSB DDR).. and match the performance of any overclocked P4 with Rambus.

Its a stalemate basically. I'd go with a 1900+ if you want to unlock the CPU. If you just want to overclock the easy way, go with Intel. If you don't want to overclock at all, go with the 1900+.

Many have gotten over 2.2ghz, though. There's people here running at 2.66ghz.

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