Modern Warfare 2 players and reviewers not seeing eye to eye

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11-12-2009, 10:36 PM
Freddy part deux

Modern Warfare 2 players and reviewers not seeing eye to eye

So reviewers rate this game at 89% or 8.9 out of 10.

The players rate this game rate this game at 1.4 out of 10. Keep in mind only 2000 players have rated it so far.:p

Metacritic

So the question is, are the reviewers sponsored by corporations or are the reviewers having a protest of some kind? or is the PC version really that bad?

I know that 90,000 people signed some kind of petition against the new servell rules. I sure didn't, I actually hate playing on clan servers. In americas army my bust times were always on public servers. When they went away the game died. So I'm not sure what the controversy is here.

So maybe the game really is terrible on the PC.
11-12-2009, 11:06 PM
JDC

How hard is it to submit these reviews? I wouldn't be surprised if there are threads on various gaming boards encouraging users to submitting low reviews for the pc version.
11-12-2009, 11:08 PM
Dark Sonic

What, people paid off to say good things about a game? That's completely unheard of.
11-12-2009, 11:18 PM
Kamakazie

Its just a result of mass internet whining much like the Spore Amazon debacle earlier this year.
11-13-2009, 10:36 AM
dimmy32

I've never seen such polarization in a game. Weird.
11-13-2009, 11:53 AM
PointlesS

It's just ultra pissed off people who care more than the non pissed off people. I fall in the middle somewhere. The whole fiasco sucks, but to be honest I haven't had so much fun with a game in a long time. Single player is standard Call of Duty, but I would probably put this as my multiplayer GOTY. Once you look beyond the dedicated server stuff, there's a really amazing game behind it all.
11-13-2009, 02:15 PM
Liger83

They are still going to sell 20 million copies though so all in all its not going to do nothing. Its sad really.
11-13-2009, 02:47 PM
innocentbastard

dont forget the reviews are for the console version for the most part. they didnt send out pc review copies.
11-13-2009, 06:28 PM
Samduhman

Heres a legit PC review of the game.

http://arstechnica.com/gaming/review...are-2-pc.ars/2
11-13-2009, 06:44 PM
taggart6

Just get it for the console.
11-13-2009, 07:22 PM
tituswolf

There is no reason to get it for the console if you are a pc gamer, if you are going to have the same experience in multiplayer you are better off doing it with a keyboard and mouse.
11-13-2009, 07:27 PM
Kamakazie

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Originally Posted by tituswolf

There is no reason to get it for the console if you are a pc gamer, if you are going to have the same experience in multiplayer you are better off doing it with a keyboard and mouse.

Exactly.
11-13-2009, 07:46 PM
taggart6

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Originally Posted by tituswolf

There is no reason to get it for the console if you are a pc gamer, if you are going to have the same experience in multiplayer you are better off doing it with a keyboard and mouse.

Unless things such as having a low end computer, MP hacks and cheating, MP connection issues, and poorer matchmaking features then go for it.

The reviews have already been shown the game to be superior for the Console especially when it comes to MP considering thats what the game was designed for.

In the end your more then welcomed to do what ever you want, but theres a reason why the console version are getting higher reviews, have sold more copies, and have been been promoted more heavily (IE IW not sending PC review copies) then there PC counter part.

I consider myself more of a PC gamer. I hate playing FPS on consoles. however, from what I've seen, the overall experience has been more favorable on the console so I'm willing to give that a shot on the rental. I think thats worth mentioning to people who have multi platform options are willing to give each an equal shot.
11-13-2009, 08:29 PM
Kamakazie

Quote:

Originally Posted by taggart6

Unless things such as having a low end computer, MP hacks and cheating, MP connection issues, and poorer matchmaking features then go for it.

Cheaters will be banned and I have two friends that own the game now that haven't experienced any connection issues yet. What kind of poorer matchmaking features?
11-13-2009, 08:34 PM
taggart6

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kamakazie

Cheaters will be banned and I have two friends that own the game now that haven't experienced any connection issues yet. What kind of poorer matchmaking features?

That was a poor choice of words on my part. By poorer match making I was referring to the overall MP non-dedicated system that allows for you inviting friends and setting up games.

This includes dropped connections, not being able to join with friends, timing out, and etc. However, that is also as much an issue with a persons PC as it is with anything else but I've read complaints with this regarding the PC quite frequently online.
11-13-2009, 09:15 PM
ThunderGod66

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Originally Posted by taggart6

This includes dropped connections, not being able to join with friends, timing out, and etc. However, that is also as much an issue with a persons PC as it is with anything else but I've read complaints with this regarding the PC quite frequently online.

I'm not sure if you've played it so I'll just clear things up. I'm up to level 30 now so I've put a decent chunk of time into the multi-player.

I've gotten my connection dropped during a game 1 time total...it happens in the lobby sometimes but I think that's just because everyone leaves sometimes or something. And that was a timeout so I don't know if there's a separate dropping you've heard about.

Right on the first menu you have the option to Invite Friends. You click it, it brings up your steam friends, you click their name(s) and they're invited...then you can join whatever game you want together. Me and my buddy have been playin together and it makes your friend's nametag blue and their Icon blue in on the map so it's easy to follow eachother around. It's pretty awesome. Reminded me of being in a party in WoW.

Also, I've experienced the finding new host thing for the first time like a couple hours ago...and it went real fast. It happened one other time since then too...it's really not annoying like I thought it would be.

Oh and my game was periodically crashing between games when I manually set all the texture options to Extra...when i put it on Automatic, I haven't crashed since (and that was all the way back in my first few games). Just a tip for anyone else that gets that issue.

This game is awesome...any of the negative concerns I had really don't matter at all because it's all transparent when you're playing.
11-13-2009, 11:09 PM
Dark Sonic

Enjoy your 100+ pings. I've played online FPS games for too long to even want to think about playing with such a ping. You may not notice the difference but I know I certainly will.
11-13-2009, 11:53 PM
ThunderGod66

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Originally Posted by Dark Sonic

Enjoy your 100+ pings. I've played online FPS games for too long to even want to think about playing with such a ping. You may not notice the difference but I know I certainly will.

Where did this 100+ ping minimum rumor even start from?
When you click the find a game button, you specifically see on your screen:
Finding a game with <50ms ping...
(which you have to be fast to catch because it usually joins you into a game a fraction of a second later.)

Trust me, I've been playing competitive FPS games online hardcore since Quake 2 CTF over 10 years ago and from a dial-up to fiber optics, I know what >100ms ping feels like and I'm definitely getting low pings almost all of the time.

If you want to avoid this game because you don't like it, that's fine...but if you're worried about the features they downgraded from the last versions, you won't notice they're gone once you're getting killstreaks and raining death upon your enemies.
11-14-2009, 01:31 AM
tituswolf

This hysteria from people who have not even played the game is a bit rediculous, there are at least three people here (thundergod, pointless, and myself) who actually have the game and have played it online and say that overall the system works well. The issues that you listed Taggart I have had little off, honestly I have had more issues getting into games of Left for Dead than I have had with this. While I like the dedicated server system better, overall this is pretty decent system they have now and at least the rank system has some meaning now.
11-14-2009, 05:30 AM
taggart6

Quote:

Originally Posted by tituswolf

This hysteria from people who have not even played the game is a bit rediculous, there are at least three people here (thundergod, pointless, and myself) who actually have the game and have played it online and say that overall the system works well. The issues that you listed Taggart I have had little off, honestly I have had more issues getting into games of Left for Dead than I have had with this. While I like the dedicated server system better, overall this is pretty decent system they have now and at least the rank system has some meaning now.

I don't think its hysteria to simply point out that people who are upset over and/or having problems with the PC issues take a look at the console version.

I think its fantastic those with the PC version enjoy it, however other people on this forum and others have reported issues. I think its only fair to point out that they can still try it out on the consoles if they want.

It's not really hysteria pointing out the obvious.
11-14-2009, 03:34 PM
Learux

I might have to pick it up after all, just so pricey.
11-14-2009, 03:37 PM
tituswolf

Quote:

Originally Posted by taggart6

I don't think its hysteria to simply point out that people who are upset over and/or having problems with the PC issues take a look at the console version.

I think its fantastic those with the PC version enjoy it, however other people on this forum and others have reported issues. I think its only fair to point out that they can still try it out on the consoles if they want.

It's not really hysteria pointing out the obvious.

I am not talking directly to you more at the hundreds of people over at kotaku saying they will never try it blah blah blah. I have not experienced a single problem with connecting to games with cod mw 2 that did not also experience in the console version of COD4. Now everyone gets to share in the fun.
11-14-2009, 05:04 PM
innocentbastard

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThunderGod66

Where did this 100+ ping minimum rumor even start from?
When you click the find a game button, you specifically see on your screen:
Finding a game with <50ms ping...
(which you have to be fast to catch because it usually joins you into a game a fraction of a second later.)

Trust me, I've been playing competitive FPS games online hardcore since Quake 2 CTF over 10 years ago and from a dial-up to fiber optics, I know what >100ms ping feels like and I'm definitely getting low pings almost all of the time.

The 100 ping stemmed from Mackey's response in the Best Buy chat.

Quote:

What kinds of pings did you get during your IWNet testing and what do you say is an acceptable ping?
Mackey-IW: I've been playing mainly with around 100ms ping and it was great.

Also this link from the IW Forums is supposed to help you tweak the cell phone bars so you can see your true ping. Some people have reported getting better connections afterwords also.
http://www.infinityward.com